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[Zsolt Peter Basak <shiki.biomernok@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes this is a good idea, a nice way I guess. This way, you would keep
the version tradition.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:32 AM, PCMan <pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Another option might be release 1.0 with current feature set, but
> create a branch for 1.5 and do the development in parellel, just like
> what Firefox has done in the past. Then both the stable branch and the
> development 1.5 branch can have releases. So users who requires new
> features can ship the 1.5.x version. Maybe this is a better idea, and
> this can be documented in the release note of 1.0.
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Zsolt Peter Basak
> <shiki.biomernok@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> In my opinion you should release a stable one with the version of 1.0.
>> If you always want to make a perfect software (in every aspect), the
>> usual thing can happen when the software won't ever be done since you
>> always want to change something, the users always want something. The
>> current state is okay I guess, distros could already ship it. The
>> change what you talk about is important, but not crucial. In my
>> opinion it's all ok for a 1.1 version , but this is only my personal
>> opinion. (Only some distro ships with rc version. Some still ships
>> with the 0.5 .. oh my. Some only includes it if it gets a stable/final
>> 'mark'. *I* say, the old 1.0 goals are totally ok.)
>>
>> ps.: Now... where should I send this message ? Sorry if reply to all
>> list is not the correct way.
>> Peter
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:45 AM, PCMan <pcman.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi list,
>>> After observing the reaction of users to the new pcmanfm and gathering
>>> some feedback, I'm now thinking about the necessity to change goals
>>> for 1.0 release.
>>> The major problems encountered by most users seem to be:
>>> 1. They don't want gvfs, or if they use it outside gnome, it can be
>>> problematic sometimes.
>>> 2. Volume management doesn't work sometimes due to some unknown issue of gvfs.
>>> 3. Tree view in the side pane is not available.
>>> 4. File searching utility is gone.
>>>
>>> So, I'm considering if a revise for 1.0 plan is needed. It's stable in
>>> current status, but it's functionality doesn't match the older series.
>>> This make many people reluctant to upgrade.
>>> The proposed changes to 1.0 are:
>>> 1. To implement volume mounting wth udisks and don't completely rely
>>> on gvfs for this.
>>> This won't be too difficult and only requires some coding. This can
>>> make pcmanfm work well without gvfs, which solves #2 and partially
>>> solves #1.
>>> 2. Try to add support for tree view to side pane again. I already came
>>> up with a better way to implement it last week. So I'm confident that
>>> this can be done.
>>> 3. Leave search utility since it's a Google SoC project now and as the
>>> old one doesn't work correctly, leaving this won't affect much.
>>> 4. A developer from the community is trying to work on template
>>> support, so you can create new files based on some template files in
>>> the popup menu. It's still a work in progress, but since it's simple,
>>> can we include this in 1.0?
>>>
>>> I want to make an exception for the feature-freeze and add the missing
>>> features udisks and dir tree prior to 1.0. Then it's possible to
>>> totally replace the old pcmanfm with it.
>>> Of course we can do them in branch and leave 1.0 as it is now, but
>>> this may cause problems in promotion and since some old features are
>>> missing, replacing the old series can be more difficult. Missing
>>> features can give the new pcmanfm a bad name sometimes even its
>>> internal structure is much better than the old one.
>>>
>>> Any comments?
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