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[Phill Whiteside <phillw@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I'll do this not via bug report as it is a 'work around' rather than a fix.
In the past we have had the instructions for minimal iso at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu specfically
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall My
suggestion is that we re-write the notes to use the alt install so that they
are n00b friendly and cover the tricky part of manually partitioning? The
pro's for this is that the alt image works, the con's are that it still
leaves Ubiquity wanting silly usage of disk & RAM space when it should be
fixed, IMHO, in a couple of lines of code as to where JM alluded.

I'd much prefer the 'hack' that caused the regression to be accepted as a
regression and a more elegant solution be found to the problem. Simply
'telling' Ubiquity to want 2 X Disk space and 2 X RAM, for me is simply
insane. It has been proven that the  2 X disk space is not required
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/11.04MinimalDiskSpacebut,
with my pragmatic head on and us using the 'official' build system
whilst we argue these points out there are people who cannot install.

If we do go for the hand-holding alt instructions, I'd like to also make
/home a partition as well. IMHO this would allow the / system to be as small
as possible, allow us to factor in depending on RAM the /swap area and then
have all the user data on its own partition. For such small disks we are not
going to be installing side by side with another system.

Well, those are my thoughts. I look forward to the replies, The battle may
have been lost for 11.10, but the war for 12.04 is yet to start. If 12.04
can address the ubiquity issues that affect Lubuntu (and any other
low-footprint) then we get a win-win.

Regards,

Phill.



2011/9/3 Erick Brunzell <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>

> The Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 live-i386 image now says only 3.9GB is
> required. I think the Ubuntu image says 4.4GB but I need to recheck
> that.
>
> So I started the "automated" install (install alongside) where my blank
> 4GB flash drive was the only unpartitioned space available, and I have
> 2GB of RAM, so the installation stalls with the attached warning because
> it wants to create about 2GB of swap which leaves an insufficient amount
> of disc space for /.
>
> IMHO that's actually OK though, because you're told that clicking on
> continue will result in failure, and if you click on back you end up in
> the manual partitioning screen.
>
> Lubuntu now also has an alternate install image so I'd think we're OK
> here.
>
> I have no 64bit hardware so I can't test the amd64 images.
>
> ** Attachment added: "lack_of_space.png"
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/775124/+attachment/2347816/+files/lack_of_space.png
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu
> Packages Team, which is subscribed to a duplicate bug report (819538).
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/775124
>
> Title:
>  Ubiquity should have a command line option to override the free space
>  check
>
> Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
>  Triaged
> Status in “ubiquity” source package in Oneiric:
>  Triaged
>
> Bug description:
>  Binary package hint: ubiquity
>
>   I downloaded the 11.04 desktop i386 iso, put it on a usb drive so i
>   could it install it on my netbook, but couldnt even get past the
>   install screen, because it says i need 4.4GB to install ubuntu 11.04.
>   The problem is that my hard drive is only 4GB large, a common size in
>   netbooks.  I have run installers for ubuntu 10.10, 10.04, 9.10 and
>   9.04 netbook editions on my netbook and never had a problem before.  I
>   notice that 11.04 has netbook and desktop editions combined into a
>   single ISO, so maybe that is why the error happened in 11.04 and not
>   before.
>
>   Also, I notice that the install footprint of 10.10 is around 2.1GB, so
>   it shouldnt be a problem running 11.04 unless they truly added 2GB of
>   junk to the OS.  The problem is I just can't get past the installer.
>
>  [i am intentionally posting a duplicate of bug
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/772164 because i can't change the package
> of
>  bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/772164 to ubiquity from netbook]
>
>  ProblemType: Bug
>  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04
>  Package: ubiquity 2.6.10
>  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2
>  Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686
>  Architecture: i386
>  Date: Sun May  1 20:24:28 2011
>  LiveMediaBuild: Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Release i386 (20110427.1)
>  ProcEnviron:
>   LANGUAGE=en_US:en
>   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>   SHELL=/bin/bash
>  SourcePackage: ubiquity
>  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
>
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