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[amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

With LXTask and GNOME System Monitor opened along side with a browser, that
was already slow. I haven't tried the app you suggested so I was JUST
wondering, that is all :)

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:01 AM, <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx> wrote:

> What has the ram size todo with the harddisk space the app and it
> dependencies use ?
>
>
>
>
> -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer
>
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> Am 12.11.2011 21:57 schrieb amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>
> Yes, I do remember but have you seen the long list of dependences that
> come with it? :)
> I'm afraid with 242MB RAM, I may not get what I really want - just a
> thought.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:53 AM, <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> As I mentioned it before ksysguard is the only tool that gives numbers
>> that are reasonable. The other way would be going into /proc and check it
>> manually
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer
>>
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>> Am 12.11.2011 21:49 schrieb amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Being little sick and having problems with sleeping, I wasn't able to do
>> much regarding the test. Above all, I'm having different readings using
>> some of the tools which have been mentioned here. I'm not sure what to do?
>> each tool is having different readings than the other. I'm mainly using
>> LXTask and GNOME System Monitor. Each one is showing different process for
>> example LXTask is showing 3 process for Chromium while GNOME System Monitor
>> is showing 5. Firefox as always will be shown as one process or two
>> sometimes (plugin-container).
>>
>> I think there must be a better efficient tool to do this benchmark. I
>> don't think it should be done manually.
>>
>> I'll keep looking ...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> P.S.
>> Just thought to update you about that.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
>>> debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
>>> I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
>>> but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
>>> voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
>>> mean, they should agree about that.
>>>
>>> EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep
>>> Lubuntu as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow
>>> Ubuntu's Steps.
>>> Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
>>> could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
>>> Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
>>> many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
>>> own information.
>>>
>>> I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
>>> with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
>>> default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.
>>>
>>> I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not
>>> do some tests and send the report via mailing list?
>>>
>>> As many already mentioned, it's "apt-get install" and mission
>>> accomplished.
>>> IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.
>>>
>>> I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to
>>> you:
>>>
>>> 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
>>> 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
>>> everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and
>>> I could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't
>>> disrespect is my motto :)
>>>
>>> Cya
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
>>>> > Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
>>>> "This
>>>> > is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
>>>> Isn't that the same ?
>>>> I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
>>>> I guess that is a low machine.
>>>> If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.
>>>>
>>>> > Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please
>>>> keep such
>>>> > personal opinions out of this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
>>>> ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
>>>> experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
>>>> arguments.
>>>> And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
>>>> advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Google is dropping H264 support:
>>>> >
>>>> http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
>>>>
>>>> Google Chrome != Chromium
>>>>
>>>> > Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
>>>> > sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
>>>> > available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
>>>> > it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
>>>>
>>>> At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
>>>> tab cannot crash the whole browser.
>>>>
>>>> > While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
>>>> > web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
>>>> > than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
>>>> > source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
>>>> > nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
>>>> > continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
>>>> > different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
>>>> > the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
>>>> > supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
>>>> > maintain Chromium).
>>>>
>>>> I really don't think that if Lubuntu would ship Chromium instead of
>>>> Firefox it will hurt Mozilla soo much that they have to fear their
>>>> existens.
>>>> And to be clear here, if we would to have choose a non free vs. a free
>>>> software then I would also argue its definitely better to promote the
>>>> free software. But in our case we have to made a choice between two free
>>>> software products.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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