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[Michael Rawson <michaelrawson76@xxxxxxxxx>]

If I understand right, this will only affect those on said machines IF they have ~4GB RAM. Which is unlikely, considering they have Pentium IIs. 

But I agree, we should keep the old kernels for a bit longer. But then we throw a dilemma, where we don't get new kernels. Unless you want a kernel developer for Lubuntu.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:39:02 +0100
神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) <rafaellaguna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> But there're Lubuntu users on Pentium II and similar machines. In fact
> they're happy an OS can handle those "trashy" computers and make them
> useable.
> 
> Will this affect those users?
> 
> 
> 
>  <http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/>  <http://www.lubuntu.net/>
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/11/18 Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > I forgot to forward this mail from ubuntu-devel, it may have an impact on
> > Lubuntu since we shared the same kernel.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Julien Lavergne
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:43:28 -0700
> > From: Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > ubuntu-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise
> > Pangolin
> >
> >
> > Per discussion at UDS the kernel team is proposing to drop the non-PAE
> > i386 flavour. The upgrade path for non-PAE users will be the PAE kernel.
> > Those CPUs that do not have i686 and PAE support will be orphaned. To
> > the best of my knowledge, these include Intel CPUs prior to Pentium II,
> > 400Mhz Pentium M, VIA C3, and Geode LX. As far as I know, there are no
> > laptop or desktop class CPUs being produced that do not meet these
> > minimum requirements.
> >
> > Before I do something that is difficult to revert, I would like to hear
> > from the development community why we should continue to maintain a
> > kernel flavour that is (in my opinion) getting increasingly low
> > utilization. It is my feeling that an extremely high percentage of users
> > of the non-PAE kernel have a CPU that is PAE capable.
> >
> > If there is sufficient community demand (and support), I would be
> > willing to sponsor the first non-PAE kernel upload to Universe.
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/PreciseKernelConfigReview
> >
> > We'll be conducting a similar survey for powerpc.
> >
> > rtg
> >
> > P.S. For those of you that are totally confused by this email, PAE
> > (Physical Address Extension) was an addition to 32 bit x86 CPUs that
> > allowed them to address more then 4GB physical memory.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
> > --
> > Tim Gardner tim.gardner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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