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I do agree with all what have been said/written.

With all the honesty in the world, I don't like the Wiki Pages.
Why?

1- I've been told it MUST be the main source of our information while there
are LOTS of missing information already, NOT to mention it is not organized
nor up to date.

2- One can't find what he/she is looking for easily.

3- The whole structure is bad IMHO.

4- When I tried to contribute to the Wiki Area, I have heard NOTHING but
bad negative and rude attitude so I decided NOT to touch it any more and
take care of Ubuntu Forum as that is where I belong.

5- There is NO dedicated team to maintain our Wiki

Perhaps these are the main reasons.

Again, to be honest, I have another thoughts and different approaches and
I'm having hard time to explain myself over and over again. Thus, I have
decided weeks ago to remain silent and do my job quietly.
I'm doing well on the forum and I'll keep it up, period.
I have so much plans to help Lubuntu Users on the Froum. Writing guides and
more.

I couldn't remain silent anymore.

I can't deny I do have my own style that is different big time than
everyone's style in this team but since this is a Team Work more than
anything else, I'm trying my best to learn more about this team, even more
than learning about Lubuntu which I breath daily.

I'm here as always and ready to help and take our Wiki to the next step but
WE do need to talk and discuss, period.

:)

Excuse my approach, I just couldn't resist.





On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:56 AM, ∅ <maps.backward@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> On 12/04/2011 02:26 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:43:15 +1000
> > Jared Norris <jrnorris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On 5 December 2011 06:17, amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> So, again, please double check this:
> >>>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
> >>> and if necessary, update this:
> >>>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java
> >> This is the very big problem I see with having a separate FAQ to the
> >> main information on the wiki. Unless it's specific to Lubuntu I really
> >> don't see why it should exist on our FAQ area at all. All this does is
> >> duplicate information AND reduce the number of people working on a
> >> topic. This is a perfect example because the proper Java page [0] was
> >> updated a while ago to reflect the changes.
> >>
> >> So my opinion is, unless it's specific to Lubuntu we should contribute
> >> and rely on the community documentation for *Ubuntu instead of trying
> >> to carve out our own little niche that will easily be out of date and
> >> hard to maintain with fewer resources. (To answer your question my
> >> suggestion would be to remove the java section altogether, if you HAVE
> >> to have something, link to the main page for Java).
> >>
> >> [0] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
> > Couldn't agree more Jared.  Repeating the same information over and over
> in different places is not helpful.  Users who aren't quite sure what their
> problem is end up 'not seeing the wood for the trees.'  This is the sort of
> thing a decent index is helps with.
> to me, this begs the question of why we have a FAQ at all. there's no
> reason there shouldn't be an LXDE-specific section to the general
> "Ubuntu" wiki as it is relevant to LXDE. how many people have you come
> across that run LXDE in Ubuntu rather than doing Lubuntu? it's often a
> gateway to officially making the switch.
>
> my problem with the "main" wiki is that it is often so GNOME-centric,
> it's not always apparent whether or not something is truly applicable to
> Lubuntu. so if we updated it for Lubuntu, there would be ONE place to go.
>
> always the revolutionary,
> wxl/walter
>
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