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[Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>]

Quite simply tasksel has been very unreliable, particularly so since I requested this change:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/931237

Personally if I had to choose ATM I'd say stick with CLI.

But the worst problem is that most of those effected seem to have Pentium M Laptops with no access to a wired connection. Not sure yet how to deal with that.

I have found that UNetbootin works fine to create a mini.iso flash drive. There has to be a way to slip the most common wireless drivers into it.

But this was a total screw-up on the part of Canonical, and I've told SABDFL the same:

https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08539.html

No reply yet, but unless Ubuntu itself changes course we'll just have to tell a lot of Pentium users w/o wired access goodbye :^(

Lance


--- On Sun, 3/4/12, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-qa] Non-pae testing
To: "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: lubuntu-wiki-docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>, "Steven" <stenten@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 12:38 PM

Aloha,
That tasksel might be a bit beginner friendly, however did anyone test already if Lubuntu Desktop is even added to that? We've only become official this release, that might mean someone could have overlooked it.


Note that it will take a lot more from our side in terms of documentation. Giving a more step by step guidance.
Something to think about.
@Steven: let us know how things will progress.
With metta, Chris
On Mar 3, 2012 12:09 PM, "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Lance,
Chris is team leader for the wiki / docs team [1], as I'm also a member of that team we do still chat to each other :)
I've cc'd them this email.


Regards,
Phill.[1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs


On 2 March 2012 20:24, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I'm working on things, how much documentation do we need?

I think a very brief how-to regarding upgrades from Oneiric to Precise. But we all know that upgrades can be problematic depending on customization, hardware, etc.



When it comes down to the the mini.iso we used to provide very limited details regarding the minimal install:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall



None of that is wrong but I think we should be able to use "Install" and 'tasksel'. Or should we go CLI? Or do we need to provide details for both methods?

If we go with 'tasksel' I like this guide:



http://xbmcmediacenter.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-mini-iso/

But I have a few concerns:

(1) Regarding "hostname" I think we need to better explain that it's the same as Computer Name using the live CD, ie:



This
 is the name used to identify the computer on your network, if 
you're used to using the live installer it's simply called "computer 
name" there and it's created for you when you enter your full name and 
user name, eg;



If your full name is "John Smith", and you keep the user name "john" 
your computer name will typically be something like "john-desktop".
			
		

(2) HTTP proxy. I've never had to set one up, most users won't. How do we explain that?

(3) Partitioning! How much should we say? At least "use largest continuous space" still exists in the Debian installer ;^)



(4) Regarding encryption I don't know what to say, I've never done so.

(5) UTC clock settings still exists in the alternate install images but not in the netboot installs I've tried. Do we need to mention anything here?



I think PhillW is our main documentation guy so I think it's ultimately up to him to decide what the documentation says, sorry Phill :^)

But I also wanted to be able to create a bootable USB flash drive with the mini.iso image and while it was possible using grub and "dd" I found it unreliable, and we all know "dd" can be hazardous to existing data.



So I kept exploring and it's fairly easy to create a bootable mini.iso with UNetbootin. Downright easy to create a Oneiric image, a
 tiny bit more complicated to create Precise image due to the need to understand file paths, but much safer than using "dd" from CLI.

So I contacted the UNetbootin dev and asked if they'd provide both standard and non-pae images in their available downloads. We'll have to be patient for a reply.



What does everyone think so far?

If you wish you can follow the conversation here at the forums:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924455



Sorry if I'm just being a pain in the neck,

Lance

PS: All of my hardware runs the PAE kernel just fine so we will need a non-pae tester at some point, but I know how to look and see what kernel packages are installed, what's running, etc.



--- On Thu, 3/1/12, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Phill Whiteside
 <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Lubuntu-qa] Non-pae testing
To: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 1:39 PM



As the subject says.

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