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[Paul Gorski <paul@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

If we could fix the dark login screens for the G4s at the cost of giving up on the iMacG3's I'd be fine with that. The fact is the desktop iso doesn't work for G3's or many G4's. (No boot G3's dark installer screen for G4's)

I'm not looking at this just from a Mac angle though.  Their are millions of PCs that the Window OS has abandoned, ripe for Lubuntu or equivalent.
As someone who is personally responsible for overseeing government budgets, I'd like to see governments and schools move to Ubuntu, Lubuntu or equivalent. Its folks like me you have to reach and convince. Decision makers within business and units of governments.

By the way, I'm having problems with the PC side, but don't have the time to report the problems, as I am working on three PowerPC Macs at a time.

I have PIII's, PIV's, and Intel-based Macs I've been testing on while my other PowerPC installs are happening. And I've started doing some Ubuntu installs just to compare the experiences.

 

Sincerely,
Paul Gorski
 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Paul Gorski <paul@xxxxxxxxxxx>; lubuntu-qa <lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 12.04 beta test


Hi Paul,


this is lubuntu's first attempt at a Mac release (We only gained 'official' status with the 11.10 release, which was only i686 & amn64). Pretty much everyone testing has never used iso-tracker[1] before nor raised 'official' bug reports. That they have come so far in such a short time is a testament to their desire to see lubuntu available for Macs. The 12.04 will, no doubt, still be a bit rough round the edges as non of our dev team have access to a mac. The fate of lubuntu for Macs falls pretty much into the hands of the small but valiant group of testers. Our devs, artwork, wiki people etc. will do all they can to ensure that it works, looks okay and there is documentation as to how to solve issues that are still there at release. 


I am as committed to helping new comers get used to QA testing, and the 'main' QA team that over sees all flavours of the ubuntu family are also as committed. This is the first release for me where I've been coordinating QA issues, and boy oh boy, have I asked a lot of questions! There is a 'rule' from Canonical to continue the ppc & Intel-Mac releases but only if they are seen to be tested, bugs reported and fixed. Consider the 12.04 lubuntu release as a stable 'Beta', what we learn from getting it to release will be taken on board for the 12.10 release. 


I'm mindful of the fact that there are still some pretty big gremlins that need sorting - especially for G3 and the knack of installing the kernels in the wrong place. These affect all the ubuntu family Mac releases, the feed back from the guy who looks after such things is "RAISE A BUG!!", reporting by email, IRC, forums etc. does not count in Canonical's eyes as 'activity'. 


For reaching a larger audience? As happened with lubuntu - you'd be surprised just how powerful word of mouth, peoples blogs etc. are. We do have access to some people who are PR orientated, both via lubuntu, ubuntu and an upstream project that I also am the admin for. As for the pure Mac side of things? Well, I'm sure the mac users know where to post comments about the fact lubuntu is coming to the Macs :) 


As they say in the old Ealing Comedies [2] "Carry on testing!" At times, it does feel somewhat surreal, a good sense of humour is not required, but it sure goes a long way to help you not "head butting the desk" when things really break!


Regards,


Phill
[1] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_(film_series)


On 9 March 2012 17:48, Paul Gorski <paul@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 Phill,

Are there any clear cut goals set forth for Ubuntu and variant development?

Sure you all want to improve the released products, but for what purpose?
Is there any particular goal to reach a larger audience, a larger installed base?

I've supported Macs and PCs for over 20 years now, but was a true Mac Evangelist in the day before Apple Stores.
I'd go into businesses and flip them from PC to Mac. Sometimes it was hard sometimes not.
Lower cost of training, return on investment and ease of use usually sold decision makers, as long as the software supported their business goals.

I see a huge market for Ubuntu and the like. Low cost of entry, pretty easy to setup, numerous viable business applications, and browsers fully compatible with today's cloud computing. And you can use your existing hardware!
You could drive down operating costs for businesses, schools and governments. What's not to like.

I know you're not the guy that makes these decisions, but I'd like to know what we're working towards.


 

Sincerely,
Paul Gorski
 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Luigi Calderone <lugligino@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: lubuntu-qa <lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 11:34 am
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 12.04 beta test


Hi Luigi,


the only one available for you would be the 10.04 release of lubuntu which we keep alive precisely for that reason. If you can get Ubuntu 12.04 installed, you can then put lubuntu on & get rid of the gnome stuff. But! the instructions for going 'pure' lubuntu will not be available until a few days after the final release of 12.04.


Sorry I cannot be of more help.


Regards,


Phill.


On 9 March 2012 08:33, Luigi Calderone <lugligino@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Phil,
I wasn't able to find a way to write anything in the iso tracker.
Installation of Lubuntu was unsuccessful because my laptop Dell Latitude D600 is "Pentium M" based, manufactured on 2004. Pentium M is a "non PAE" processor not supported anymore in ubuntu with exception of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS version (I don't like it because I've only 512MB Ram). I found it's possible to use a mini.iso distro but an ethernet connection is required and I've only an internet key one. Probably a mutant lubuntu-non-pae distro should be a solution but I didn't find it in any way.
Any hint?

Bye
Luigi




2012/3/8 Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>

Hi,


firstly, be careful with Gnome Video Player, it *may* bring in a lot of Gnome dependencies (I've never tried it on Lubuntu), Firefox can be installed although the default is Chromium


We ask that people use the iso tracker at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ as from there you can look at the requested tests for installing and say that it works / fails / installs but has a problem etc.


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing has more information on testing. Feel free to join the lubuntu-qa group and mailing list and ask any testing questions on there. Also, joining the main mailing list if you are testing an i686 or amd64 version details of that one are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#How_to_Join


Welcome to lubuntu!


Regards,


Phill.


On 8 March 2012 15:33, Luigi Calderone <lugligino@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Admin,
I'm going to install Lubuntu 12.04 beta1 on my old laptop (Dell Latitude
D600, 512MB Ram) in order to use and test this distro.
I use often some programs like Firefox 10, Gnome Video Player, KeepassX,
Unison, Playonlinux, Wvdial
What can I do if I find any problem? Is there a forum where it's better
to report it?
Bye
Luigi
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