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Message #01084
Re: What can we do about abiword in Quantal?
Right now I'm only concerned about Lubuntu Quantal. I want to be sure Lubuntu 12.10 ships with a usable version of 'abiword'.
Next week while testing Ubuntu and Xubuntu 12.04.1 candidates I'll try to raise the issue regarding Precise which will be much more difficult.
I am of course assuming that we'll have a 12.04.1 testing cycle for the other flavors :^)
Lance
--- On Wed, 8/15/12, Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] What can we do about abiword in Quantal?
To: "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>, lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Julien Lavergne" <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 1:14 PM
Lance, for quantal I don't know of any
restrictions. We should be able to update abiword as any other
package in development. I see 2.9.2+svn20120603-1 is in there now.
For precise, I see an older svn copy of abiword, also 2.9.2. I am
not a ubuntu developer, so I don't know a ton about process in
that regards. However, it should be trivial to ask for a resync of
the abiword package from debian. However, quantal appears to
already have the latest version from unstable, so I'm not sure why
people are saying otherwise in the bug report.
So I'm a bit confused. We're talking about getting abiword in
precise fixed yes? If we're talking about quantal, then we have a
bit of time to pursue options, as well as in general more options
since it's not yet release nor an LTS :-)
Nicholas
On 08/15/2012 01:43 PM, Lance wrote:
I'm not sure why SRU
would come into play in Lubuntu Quantal since we're still
in development?
Since we started using "proposed" repos in the QQ testing
cycle I'd think we could just make a decision, then the
pkg in proposed could be tested and decided on :^)
What version of 'abiword' should be included in Quantal?
If the policy requires that we ship a broken version when
the package maintainer acknowledges that it's broken then
I'd suggest we need to review our policy. Or maybe we need
to examine the interaction between the release team and
the various package maintainers?
If it's no longer possible to include a working version of
'abiword' by default then I suppose we should look at
other options, but I personally find that troubling
because I've used 'abiword' since Win ME and Lindows - yes
there really was a Lindows ;^)
Lance
--- On Wed, 8/15/12, Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Nicholas Skaggs
<nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] What can we do about abiword
in Quantal?
To: "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>,
lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Julien Lavergne"
<gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 11:53 AM
We missed
you in the meeting. Please note I do not speak for
the release team. However, at this point, any
change is likely to need good reason and undergo a
lot of scrutiny. They don't want to introduce any
regressions, etc. With that said, this seems to me
to be a matter of getting a update pushed to the
archive. I don't see it as having to be on any
particular deadline (other than asap). This should
be pushed through as an SRU. Thoughts?
Nicholas
On 08/14/2012 07:16 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
Hi Lance,
I'll add this to the agenda for the QA
meeting on 15th August @ 14:00 UTC.
As you correctly state, time is running out.
Regards,
Phill.
On 14
August 2012 21:04, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I'm
just checking a bunch of stuff and
preparing for Ubuntu and Xubuntu
12.04.1 testing next week. I know
that doesn't involve Lubuntu but I
have a few pet bugs that I hope to
address so I updated my Lubuntu
Quantal on two machines and checked
out abiword very closely.
On both machines I experience the
problems explained in comment #27 of
this bug report:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1019621
Scrolling doesn't work properly,
sometimes the screen flashes, trying
to read some old abiword docs
results in large gray or black
"boxes" where there should just be
blank page. Basically abiword is a
total mess :^(
Unless msevior has changed his mind
I'd remind everyone that he said,
"As maintainer of abiword I urge you
to switch to abiword-2.8.6. Debian
testing has moved on to 2.9.3 which
is a considerable improvement of
2.9.2 but it still contains many
bugs."
So what should we do? I think our
time to decide is very limited with
a feature freeze coming on August
23rd. I doubt we could change
versions of abiword after that :^(
Releasing a buggy application twice
in a row is kind of a bad
advertisement regarding stability so
let's please discuss this.
Lance
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