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[Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>]

Just thinking out loud here so don't shoot me ;^)

So, as this effects only Lubuntu ATM;

11.10 reaches EOL April 2013

12.04 reaches EOL October 2013

12.10 reaches EOL April 2014

13.04 reaches EOL January 2014

So 12.10 is supported 3 months longer than 13.04. Then going forward;

13.10 reaches EOL July 2014

14.04 would be the next LTS so we might want to discuss the possibility of pursuing a 3 year (or 30 month) LTS at that time???

I maintain about 40 individual PC's 3/4 of which are using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the other 1/4 are using Lubuntu 12.10 right now, so I'll personally probably skip upgrading them all to 13.04 right now.

I cc'ed Julien because I thought it wouldn't hurt to start a discussion regarding the possibility of an Lubuntu 14.04 LTS. Certainly not something we need to sort out immediately, but having used mostly Ubuntu LTS releases on most production machines since 8.04 I know it's kind of nice to wait until the first "point release" (eg: 12.04.1) before upgrading to the next LTS.

I would assume that the lions share of the security related updates during the life-cycle of an LTS are handled by Canonical, but I don't know that to be a fact, it's only an assumption.

OTOH since Lubuntu has gained official status my experience has been just as good as (actually better than) using Debian stable + LXDE, and I've discussed documenting a proper test-case for the Live CD upgrade option with Nicholas because I've largely found it to be a somewhat safer, and certainly faster way to upgrade than using the update manager.

Just thinking out loud,

Lance

--- On Tue, 3/19/13, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: Changes in Ubuntu releases decided by the Ubuntu Technical Board
To: lubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 6:00 PM

Hi everyone,
So, desktop is now to be 9 month support, LTS is to be LTS... Just waiting on how we are going to release a 'release' once the testing and QA guys have gotten our heads round it. Not here for me to blog, but the discussion of just how we are going to have a 'release' is important, so please have a think and get involved.

Regards,
Phill.




The following announcement is from Stéphane Graber, on behalf of the

Ubuntu Technical Board, about changes to releases decided at the

Ubuntu Technical Board meeting.



It's also published on the fridge if you wish to share this news

directly: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/03/19/changes-in-ubuntu-releases-decided-by-the-ubuntu-technical-board/


and you can also read commentary from Rick Spencer, Vice President of

Ubuntu Engineering, on the importance and impact of these changes

here: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/03/19/ubuntu-technical-board-looks-at-shuttleworths-proposal-for-release-management-methodology/




In yesterday's meeting[0] we covered two of the topics from Mark's

proposal to the Technical Board:



== Reducing the length of support for our regular (non-LTS) releases ==



The rational here is that it's costing a lot of time to maintain all

those releases for 18 months. It's also causing a lot of load on the SRU

team and on developers to ensure that upgrading from one release to the

other won't cause regressions due to fixes being SRUed only to a few

releases.



The change in support length from 18 months to 9 months will reduce the

number of releases we need to support in parallel while still allowing

enough time for our users to upgrade to the next release.



This change will affect Ubuntu releases starting with 13.04, any older

regular release will still be supported for 18 months and LTS releases

will still be supported for 5 years.



This change was approved through two votes, the first about shortening

the support length to 9 months and the second about doing it starting

with 13.04. Both votes had all 3 attending Technical Board members'

approval and had general support by the other members from mailing-list

discussions.



== Enable users to continuously track the development focus of Ubuntu

without having to explicitly upgrade ==



This discussion was about making it easier for some of our users to keep

their machine always on the current development release.



This has nothing to do with Rolling Releases and is purely about setting

up some kind of meta-series on the archive mirrors that people can use

instead of having to manually upgrade from one development release to

the next.



There again, all 3 present members agreed with this proposal.



== Other discussions ==



Outside of those two items, we also briefly discussed some changes to

our update tool to allow our users to upgrade by more than a single

release at a time.



In the current state of things we allow for upgrades from a release to

the next or from an LTS release to the next LTS release.



The plan here is to change that, so that a user of Ubuntu 12.10 could

directly update to Ubuntu 13.10 or 14.04 LTS.



This change should make the life of our users much easier and will

ensure that we get to the next LTS with much more reliable and well

tested upgrades.



The Technical Board didn't feel that there would be anything to vote on

at this time and leaves the implementation and testing of this to the

various teams involved (Foundations, QA, Release).



The 3 items the Technical Board has voted on and accepted are considered

as final. We do not expect to have to vote again on any of this and are

just waiting on the implementation of those.


Regards,
Phill.
[0] http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-03-18-21.01.moin.txt


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw

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