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Message #02108
Re: 13.04 Beta 2 Printers
Hi Blaine,
I've forwarded this to our head of development for his thoughts on it, in
both what could be the cause of it.
Regards,
Phill.
On 10 April 2013 21:07, Blaine williams <blaine00@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Okay, I've reinstalled Lubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 Desktop (this time I used
> i386) and I get the same problem... which proves that it wasn't just an
> issue with my particular installation. Below, is a link to an image of the
> error I am getting.
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/114874183598983861770/posts/BK7yUuaPoPT
>
> After running all the updates, I still get the same issue. Strange...
> somewhere between beta 1 and beta 2 a package must have been removed that
> disables the "out of the box" printing experience. Is it time to submit a
> bug report? =)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Blaine
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is really interesting because, IMHO, "ubuntu-desktop" package should
>> not have driver for Printers for example unless I'm missing something.
>>
>> Yes please, I will be waiting for your email :)
>>
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Blaine Williams <blaine00@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Ali,
>>>
>>> No luck. Updating (upgrade and dist-upgrade) did not help. Installing
>>> "Ubuntu-desktop" immediately fixed the issue. After the install completed,
>>> while still in LXDE, I launched the printer application and it worked fine.
>>> Sorry, I know I cheated, but at least we now know that the problem is in
>>> fact caused by a missing package... And I kinda need to print tonight. :-)
>>>
>>> I'll play with a raw Lubuntu in a VM later to see if I can figure out
>>> what package was missing... and to confirm whether or not this is a global
>>> issue or just an issue with my install.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Blaine
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 4:32 PM, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Take your time and we are waiting for your next report :D
>>>
>>> This place, actually this community is all about "My experience and
>>> skills are limited, I'm very much willing to learn". We are not expert,
>>> gurus, etc. We are people who are willing to learn. This is what is really
>>> special in Lubuntu Community - the strong well to learn, learn and nothing
>>> but learning :D
>>>
>>> Have a safe trip to your home and I'm sure you will hit reply to all
>>> next time :D
>>>
>>> Take care!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Blaine williams <blaine00@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Ali
>>>>
>>>> As far as printers go, I did not actually try to install a printer on
>>>> either computer. That is why I figured the printer was irrelevant. I just
>>>> opened the "Printers" application. No further clicks, hovers, swipes,
>>>> pinches, etc were performed. =) Beta 2 gives me a message about the printer
>>>> service not being installed and beta 1 works like a champ.
>>>>
>>>> I will update the system when I get home though. I too like to use CLI
>>>> when possible... though I'm still kind of a noob. But I'm always willing to
>>>> learn!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the suggestions! I'll report back with my findings. And yes,
>>>> I will click "reply to all" from this day on. =)
>>>>
>>>> Blaine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Blaine,
>>>>>
>>>>> With mailing list, you need to hit "Reply All" and no worries about
>>>>> that, I'm sure you will remember that next time :D
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you are using different Printer, that explains why it did not
>>>>> work with Beta 2 while it worked with Beta 1. Two different Printers :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I found this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
>>>>> Kindly have a look at it. If that didn't help you, please, let us know
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO, I would suggest to open LXTerminal and:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>> sudo apt-get upgrade
>>>>> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>> The above commands will update and upgrade your system. Also, the last
>>>>> one will upgrade your Linux Kernel to the latest one used by that release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Connecting to the Internet while installing is not a big deal. It
>>>>> helps only to install some extra package during the installation. If you
>>>>> are not connected while installing, no worries because once you are done,
>>>>> you can do all the updates, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> After installation, you need to run the above 3 commands :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Some may prefer to use the Update Manager. I'm doing my best to use
>>>>> CLI and avoid GUI :D but that is me :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thing is, not every problem is a bug. To be extra sure, this link may
>>>>> help:
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
>>>>>
>>>>> and this one too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry if I'm posting so many links but this is needed on our daily
>>>>> life with Linux :D
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, let us know if you require more information ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Blaine williams <blaine00@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Ali and thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not using the same printer, but the issue occurs before any
>>>>>> attempt is made to install the printer. The full message it displays is
>>>>>> "Printing service not available. Start the service on this computer or
>>>>>> connect to another server." There is a button to "Start Service" but it is
>>>>>> grayed out. This is seen as soon as the "Printers" application is launched.
>>>>>> I checked Synaptic, and it seems CUPS is installed. Excuse my lack of
>>>>>> expertise, but I'm not really sure what other packages I would need to
>>>>>> enable the printing service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The LiveUSB I used checks out with no errors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for my lack of specifics, here is the setups...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 - Personal Laptop
>>>>>> Used Lubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 Desktop AMD64 image
>>>>>> Installed from a LiveUSB that was created using the default Ubuntu
>>>>>> Startup Disk creator
>>>>>> This is the setup that I am having the issue on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2 - Virtualbox image on work computer
>>>>>> Used Lubuntu 13.04 Beta 1 Desktop i386 image
>>>>>> Installed Lubuntu directly from the .iso file
>>>>>> "Printer" application works just as it does on every other *buntu
>>>>>> distro I've used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was really curious to know if I should report this as a bug or if
>>>>>> something went wrong with my installation. One thing to note, is that I did
>>>>>> not connect to the Internet during the initial install of Beta 2. I did
>>>>>> however connect while installing Beta 1. Not sure if that has anything to
>>>>>> do with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blaine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <
>>>>>> amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Blaine and Welcome to the Mailing List
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm the one who talked to you on Google+ Community ;) and yes, you
>>>>>>> will see me everywhere :P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First thing first, feel free to send your questions via this mailing
>>>>>>> list and we will gladly direct you and guide you whenever needed in case
>>>>>>> you need to use another channel.
>>>>>>> By the way, don't forget to bookmark this link, please:
>>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, are you using the 'same printer' on both machines?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Phill suggested, kindly check the LiveCD or LiveUSB that you used
>>>>>>> to install Beta2 for errors. When you boot your machine from the Live
>>>>>>> Media, it will give you some option right after choosing the installation
>>>>>>> language. There is an option to check the disc for errors so please do that
>>>>>>> check. There was a bug [1] actually for raring-desktop-i386 image where you
>>>>>>> can't check the disc for errors (disc is the Live Media you use to install
>>>>>>> from NOT the HDD).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you used the desktop image or the alternate image?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did you create your Live media? is it LiveCD or LiveUSB?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Blaine williams <blaine00@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone! This is my first submission, so if this is the
>>>>>>>> wrong place for this or if I'm doing it wrong, feel free to correct me! =)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've installed Beta 2 on my main computer at home and I tried to
>>>>>>>> set up my printer this morning. The printer application
>>>>>>>> (system-config-printer) displays a message about the printer service not
>>>>>>>> being installed. I figured there was just something I needed to install,
>>>>>>>> but when using my Beta 1 installation from work, the printer application
>>>>>>>> just works out the box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, either something is wrong with my installation, or something
>>>>>>>> has changed between beta 1 and beta 2 that breaks the "out of the box"
>>>>>>>> printing experience. I've fully updated my beta 1 installation and the
>>>>>>>> printer application still works fine so it looks like the problem deals
>>>>>>>> with the original installation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone confirm this issue with Beta 2? Should I submit a bug
>>>>>>>> report?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks! Much love for the Lubuntu team and their fine work!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blaine Williams
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