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[Jackson Doak <doak.jackson@xxxxxxxxx>]

as in Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu.
if ever you find something that doesn't work or could be improved, please
file a bug immediateness.
Telling the various mailing lists would help too.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Jonathan Nadeau <j.nadeau@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  By flavors do you mean Desktop environments? Is so I've tried them all
> and can tell you what I know.
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>  On 04/25/2013 09:33 PM, Jackson Doak wrote:
>
> not to take focus away from lubuntu here, but  jonathan and fernado, could
> you both try all of the flavours and try and find bugs in the accessablity
> stuff?
>
>
>  On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Jonathan Nadeau <j.nadeau@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>>  I third Fernando's suggestion for accessibility both he and I are blind
>> GNU/Linux users and would love to see Lubuntu accessible. I've done a lot
>> of work with it and have most of it accessible. The only problem I have
>> right now is making the panel accessible to the Orca screen reader. There
>> aren't a lot of changes that  need to be made to get it as accessible as I
>> have it now. I would like to put off the Razor QT desktop for a while. I
>> have tested it and it is some what accessible but needs a lot of work. I
>> think in the next year it can improve greatly. At some point if anyone
>> wants to know what i did to get lubuntu accessible let me know and we can
>> talk. Thanks for all of your hard work on this project.
>>
>>    On 04/25/2013 08:49 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>
>> Hi Boss,
>>
>>  we did discuss, and finally went with a new desktop system once before.
>> Provided, as then, we have a Plan 'B' (which we used), I'm sure none of the
>> testers will have issues. (Well, they can scream at me! )
>>
>>  As one of the comments here has said. You fully know that one of my
>> goals is for lubuntu to have full accessibility 'out of the box'. People
>> needing accessibility are so often forgotten, or needing specifications of
>> machines far beyond their budgets.
>>
>>  The 'older, older' computers may not be around in 2017 if we do make an
>> LTS 14.04 which still supports them, let's ensure that these people know
>> that they will not be abandoned.
>>
>>  Documentation on the CD... A whole new can of worms... how much room is
>> spare on the CD and how many languages can we have it translated into? It
>> is obviously possible and I look forward to discussing that further.
>>
>>  But?..... Go For It !!!!
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Phill.
>>
>>
>> On 26 April 2013 00:52, Julien Lavergne <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> First and following Phill, I want to thank you all for this 13.04
>>> release. Releases after releases, it seems to go smoother than the
>>> last one :-)
>>>
>>> However, it's time to think about the future. During the last cycle,
>>> there were a lot of news from Canonical about the future of Ubuntu.
>>> Lubuntu is part of the family, so every big changes in Ubuntu affect
>>> Lubuntu. However, and I want to make it clear for anyone : Lubuntu is
>>> a community project, with its own release schedules, its own choices …
>>>
>>> That's said, let's go with some ideas :-) What I'm going to say, it's
>>> a very long proposal, open for discussions. But discussions mean
>>> arguments if you have another opinion ;-)
>>>
>>> Next steps are 13.10, and 14.04 which should be a LTS version for
>>> Ubuntu. Last LTS (12.04), I considered that we were not ready for such
>>> commitment. I was also unsure of the work needed to make a good LTS.
>>> With more experience, I have now a better vision of this goal.
>>>
>>> So, let's make it simple, I would like Lubuntu 14.04 to be a LTS version.
>>>
>>> But claiming we want a LTS its' not enough. First, we need to make it
>>> stable enough, so we can safely claim it's a LTS, because people who
>>> install a LTS want a stable system. But, I also would like to make it
>>> sexy enough to be proud of it, to make people happy to recommend it. I
>>> would like to make it THE release of Lubuntu, the reference of all
>>> Lubuntu releases. To achieve it, I have several goals in mind, items
>>> that I consider we need to finish for the LTS, and I think we can
>>> finish them :
>>>
>>> - Finish lxsession, to make the system fully customizable and able to
>>> run minimal set of applications by default (I'll talk about it later,
>>> when you will be able to test it properly).
>>> - Fully translatable : it's vital to make it available in a maximum of
>>> languages
>>> - Artwork : finish the icon theme for a GTK environment, finish the
>>> other pieces of the artwork and its integration, to make Lubuntu even
>>> more beautiful
>>>
>>> Another item I would like to add, but I'm not sure we will be able to
>>> make it, it's an off-line documentation, or a nice manual.
>>>
>>> Of course, we need also the usual bug fixes and small improvements
>>> everywhere, but the main focus should be on those topics.
>>>
>>> Also, soon we will need to decide which applications we want in this
>>> LTS. We should do it in an other discussion, but it's the right time
>>> to do big changes if we consider they are good.
>>>
>>> Considering all the big changes which may happen for 13.10, I'm also
>>> thinking of the possibility to not do a proper 13.10 release,
>>> depending of the state of 13.10 after all the big structural changes,
>>> and near feature freeze. Again, it can be reconsidered in due time,
>>> but we may keep this in mind. I'm prepared to drop 1 release if we can
>>> do a very good 14.04 LTS.
>>>
>>> And after 14.04 ?
>>>
>>> Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing for a Qt switch over
>>> GTK, but also by changing it's display manager (MIR). You may know
>>> also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt too, by joining
>>> forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All those changes may be an
>>> opportunity to start another adventure, using Razor-qt as a base. It's
>>> also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because it could be the final
>>> release with LXDE and GTK.  We will also be free to make very big
>>> changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS behind to recommend,
>>> for a long time.
>>>
>>> To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific session (call QLubuntu,
>>> pronounce it “Cute Lubuntu” ;-)), to test during 13.10 and 14.04, if
>>> the option to go with Qt is possible.
>>>
>>> So, what do you think about it ? :-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>
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