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[Str8bs <str8bslinux@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Nio,

Maybe "Pentium M" is too general?
I believe the 730 and up have PAE, 725 and under do not? Wildcard
could be whether the accompanying chipset and bios support > 32 bit
addressing. Many laptops of that era may not have the latter as they
were never intended to have more than 4G of RAM?

Just as a comparison example, MS began requiring PAE and NX(which
requires PAE?) on 32 bit for Windows 8. It can be installed on 730's
provided the bios and chipset support NX enable.

That said, I don't currently have affected hardware to test and I may
be completely off point. :)


Regards,
Str8

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> [feedback]
>
> Hi Julien and Phill,
>
>
> I think Lubuntu 13.04 'Raring' for Pentium M CPUs is a good alternative
> for a fresh install (instead of downloading 12.04 and upgrading twice to
> newer releases).
>
> I'm receiving feedback from a few people right now, and I have to
> improve the instructions in the README file, maybe also change the
> concept of it to make it easier to understand and manage, since it is
> different from the standard way of distributing software.
>
>      -o-
>
> But for those who have
>
> - more or less personalized versions of Lubuntu 12.04 running, or
> - already have a Lubuntu 12.04 iso file and a slow internet connection
>
> the fake-pae method is good for upgrading to new pae releases, so yes,
> it should be mentioned on the wiki.
>
>      -o-
>
> Background
>
> The Pentium M CPUs are a special case. They have pae capability, but do
> not announce the pae flag. So they fall between the chairs. With the
> fake-pae trick, introduced by 7bit @ ubuntuforums, it is possible to
> upgrade. There are many high-quality professional laptops around with
> Pentium M processors.
>
> And, I have a Raring installation on a USB 3 pendrive, that runs
> beautifully on my old Thinkpad with Pentium M without the pae flag.
> So the fake-pae flag helps it sit on the pae chair.
>
> This is what I am willing to offer to other Pentium M owners.
>
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
>
> On 2013-05-01 12:55, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>> Why not just add a mention on the wiki to use fake-pae for people in
>> this case ? It seems less complicated that downloading a full version
>> of Lubuntu just for this.
>> If you are blocked by the upgrade tool, just advertise the use of
>> "apt-get dist-upgrade".
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>> 2013/4/30 Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> Hi Nio,
>>>
>>> I'm okay with hosting it[1]. But you will need to write up some
>>> documentation, name it etc.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Phill.
>>> 1. http://phillw.net/isos/
>>>
>>> On 30 April 2013 20:41, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>
>>>> I think it will be hard to make the devs accept the small fix in the
>>>> general code of *ubuntu to make it possible to install into a computer
>>>> with Pentium M CPU. But it works with a system, that is installed in a
>>>> modern computer, and ported to the Pentium M as a USB drive or cloned or
>>>> rsynced to an internal hard disk drive.
>>>>
>>>> I have such a system ready for distribution, but have a few requests
>>>> before it can be uploaded and available for everybody.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Please read the attached README file and suggest changes (remove,
>>>> change or add text)!
>>>>
>>>> 2. Please suggest where to upload it! The size is 1.1 GB.
>>>>
>>>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm $ ls -lh
>>>> totalt 1,1G
>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 3,0K apr 30 14:24 commands-and-output.txt
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle   56 apr 30 16:43 dd-restore.txt
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 1,1G apr 30 20:09 dd-sdb.gz
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle  630 apr 30 14:55 dd-sdb.txt
>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle  283 apr 30 20:47 md5sums.txt
>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 4,0K apr 30 20:45 README
>>>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm
>>>>
>>>> I can upload it at a private cloud service, but I think it is better if
>>>> you suggest some other place with better bandwidth.
>>>>
>>>> 3. I guess the best thing would be if you can organize a torrent (I
>>>> don't know how to do that).
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Nio
>>>>
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