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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi everybody,

I found some recent comments about the bug 1165200. I will try if it
would help to add a python and a gudev library (it does for some people,
but not all according to the comments). If it is a general solution, I
suggest it should be fixed in the lubuntu code and trickle down to the
updates of 13.04 and be included in the daily builds of saucy.

Please check if installing the following packages will make

usb-creator-gtk

work in your Lubuntu! You might help solving a long lasting problem with
Lubuntu 13.04 and 13.10

quote{
Yuri (wdwp) wrote on 2013-05-15: Comment #6
I installed python-gudev and gir1.2-gudev-1.0 packages. usb-creator-gtk
works.
}

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1165200

*usb-creator-gtk fails to run on lubuntu13.04 beta 2*

*      Ubuntu (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu)
*      “usb-creator” package
(https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator)
*      Bugs (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator)
*      Bug #1165200

Best regards
Nio

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Need for USB stick access for ISO testing?
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 09:09:21 +0200
From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Jonathan Marsden <jmarsden@xxxxxxxxxxx>

On 2013-06-02 08:30, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
> On 06/01/2013 10:58 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> 
>>>> Furthermore, the Startup Disk Creator (usb-creator-gtk or 
>>>> usb-creator-kde) is also part of the test. The kde version works,
>>>> but the gtk version is still broken and none of them is included
>>>> in the Lubuntu saucy iso now.
> 
> I asked:
> 
>>> OK... did this test pass for Lubuntu Raring? If so, something must
>>> have changed pretty recently to break it in Saucy!
> 
> Nio replied (forgetting to cc the lubuntu-qa list):
> 
>> No, usb-creator-gtk is still broken in Raring, but usb-creator-kde
>> can be installed. The bug has 'too low priority' and has not been
>> fixed yet. A problem with the kde version is that it pulls in extra
>> packages.
> 
> Using the KDE one would probably push the Lubuntu ISO over the size
> limit, we'd have to include all its dependencies on the ISO too.  Also,
> it seems pretty odd design to have two products like this and for them
> *not* to use a single underlying library that actually "does the work",
> so if one works, they both work...!
> 
> Anyway... this makes me unhappy.  We created a test case for this, the
> test was done for Lubuntu Raring, and it failed.  However, instead of
> fixing the issue, Lubuntu Raring was released anyway!  Presumably the
> same test also failed for Ubuntu, and it too was released.  I'm happy we
> were able to release, but... if official ISO test cases fail, that is, I
> thought, "supposed" to be release-critical.
> 
> Spending time writing test cases, testing, and teaching others how to
> test in a standard way, is made less valuable if the results of that
> testing process have no apparent impact on the released product!
> 
> Jonathan
> 
Hi again Jonathan,

1. I did not make enough noise about the problem with usb-creator-gtk
while testing Raring. I accepted using another tool to create the
persistent USB drive (and the persistence itself worked). Next time I
will ask you and other people, if I don't know how to act.

2. Is it important that the usb-creator is part of the iso, or can we
accept that it must be installed? Should we assume, that the user has
internet access? If we assume internet access, the usb-creator need not
be part of the iso, but installing it might be part of the instructions
in the test case for the live session.