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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 2013-06-11 01:05, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> 
>> On 2013-06-10 19:53, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
> 
>>> Wouldn't it be more useful to provide the temporary workaround of
>>>
>>>   sudo apt-get install python-gudev gir1.2-gudev-1.0 -y
> 
>> Your ppa makes a big improvement of usb-creator-gtk :-) It probably
>> works more or less without issues to create standard live USB drives
>> without persistence.
> 
>> But I think it is still flaky, particularly the 64-bit version.
>> Remember that Julien got segfault, when he tested it. Also the 32-bit
>> version can misbehave, unless the system and USB drive are well
>> prepared.
> 
> OK... I'm just concerned that once we turn people off usb-creator-gtk,
> it is hard to persuade them to come back it... so the bugfix work is not
> even tried by all the folks we have told not to use usb-creator-gtk.
> 
>> I have not been able to file a bug about the segfault. It does not
>> activate apport. How could I do it?
> 
> If you get a core dump file (make sure ulimit is not set to 0 for core
> files), you can run something like
> 
>   apport-bug -f -p usb-creator-gtk
> 
> and then attach a GDB backtrace from the core to the bug report.  But in
> general apport "should" catch segfault crashes, as far as I know.
> 
>> I have a question: did you do anything else than adding those
>> libraries?
> 
> No, nothing else at all.
> 
>> And are your packages the same (version) as what would be installed in
>> - an original 13.04 system without any updates?
>> - a fully updated 13.04 system?
> 
> Yes.  As far as I know 0.2.47 is what should be installed in both cases.
> 
>> As I wrote in one of the mails, it feels like usb-creator-gtk has
>> improved compared to when I started testing it with those two (same?)
>> libraries in an installed system. Or am I only using it in a more
>> consistent way to produce good persistent drives?
> 
> I think that's something about your system or the way you are using it.
> 
>> But if you think it reduces the chances to get usb-creator-gtk
>> debugged, I will remove the 'temporary edit' about it from the wiki
>> and from the tutorial.
> 
> I'm not an expert on publicity and writing good web sites :)  Maybe the
> wiki page should suggest installing those two packages, and say
> something like
> 
>   If you still have problems with usb-creator-gtk after installing these
>   two additional packages, as a temporary workaround, you can try using 
>   usb-creator-kde instead.
> 
> In the end, if you make the changes to the wiki page, they need to say
> what you are comfortable saying... so it is your choice.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
Thank you for taking time to write this detailed reply, Jonathan :-)

I'm reading and learning ... and I will:

1. Add a tip about your ppa

2. use your words:

"If you still have problems with usb-creator-gtk after installing these
two additional packages, as a temporary workaround, you can try using
usb-creator-kde instead."

3. Try to make a bug report about the segmentation fault

Best regards
Nio