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[PPC] 13.10

 

Hi folks,

as of when the next rebuild happens [1] the kernel for ppc should now boot
okay. This has been tested with servers (G3 & G5) only and how it behaves
with the multitude of graphics cards apple shipped with their machines is
an unknown. Below is the chat I had:

(22:55:56) phillw: xxxxx: do you know if linux-ppc [powerpc]
> (saucy-proposed) [3.11.0-0.1] is the kernel that will get ppc desktops back
> working?
> (22:56:11) xxxxx: phillw: Should do, yes.
> (22:56:27) xxxxx: phillw: I just smoketested it on my G3 and G5, and both
> work.
> (22:56:57) phillw: great, so the cron build tomorrow should put the
> ppc-lubuntu testers back in the chase?
> (22:57:45) xxxxx: phillw: Depending on how quickly I get it migrated, but
> probably yes.
> (22:58:38) phillw: xxxxx: scheduled to start at 16:29 (UTC)  is that
> enough time for you?
> (22:59:22) phillw: or would you prefer an extra 24 hours?
> (23:00:43) xxxxx: Oh, indeed, it's almost a day until the next build.
> Yeah, that one should be fine.
> (23:01:31) phillw: xxxxx: okies, if you are sure, I will email the
> testers, obviously they are chomping on the bit to get back to work!
> (23:02:43) xxxxx: I make no guarantees that various DRM/KMS drivers are
> working (I don't run consoles on any of my PPC machines, they're all
> servers), but these kernels at least boot on all my kit, which is a step up
> from the previous version. :P
> (23:03:05) phillw: there's one sure fire way to check :P
> (23:03:27) xxxxx: 3.11 includes a pretty massive changeset to the radeon
> driver, so that could cut both ways. Maybe it's drastically improved, or
> maybe it has a ton of new bugs that break it on !x86... We'll see.
> (23:04:55) phillw: as always, we rely on the testers to let us know :)
> That the promise to have a kernel that at least stood a chance of working
> has been kept, they will be happy and do not 'rant' over bugs.
> (23:05:42) xxxxx: Well, I can nearly guarantee that it should boot on
> pretty much any hardware we've supported before. Between yyy and I, we have
> a pretty wide array of stuff to boot and stress test on.
> (23:05:49) xxxxx: It's just that he and I both only run headless servers.
> (23:05:51) xxxxx: So, we'll see. :)
> (23:07:07) phillw: the graphics cards that apple used were and are always
> an issue... they have gotten used to workarounds, only by letting it into
> the wild can these issues with the graphics cards be started to be
> investigated :)
> (23:07:38) phillw: xxxxx: many thanks to you and yyy for this work, I do
> know ppc for desktops is a low priority :)
> (23:07:42) xxxxx: It's not the cards, per se, it's that the radeon driver
> has become very x86-centric, and very few people care about fixing the PPC
> bugs with it.
> (23:08:09) xxxxx: nouveau seems to suffer fewer of those issues (for
> whatever reason), so the nvidia cards that Apple shipped with later G5s
> seem to be in better shape.
> (23:09:35) phillw: we're still working with G3's and g4's... as long as
> the darn thing will boot, the graphics cards could be seen as nearly a
> seperate branch of their own.
> (23:10:19) xxxxx: Yeah, I haven't tried running X on the ATi Rage128 in
> my G3 for, like, a decade.
> (23:10:38) xxxxx: I assume it probably sort of works. But I have no idea,
> and don't care, as it's a headless router/firewall in my house. :P
> (23:11:14) xxxxx: Though, the offb driver would work for boring old 2D X.
> You'd just get zero acceleration.


So, allow the daily to build and start testing!!!

Regards,

Phill.
1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#When_do_they_build.3F
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw

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