Hi folks,
as of when the next rebuild happens [1] the kernel for ppc should
now boot okay. This has been tested with servers (G3 & G5) only and
how it behaves with the multitude of graphics cards apple shipped
with their machines is an unknown. Below is the chat I had:
(22:55:56) phillw: xxxxx: do you know if linux-ppc [powerpc] (saucy-
proposed) [3.11.0-0.1] is the kernel that will get ppc desktops back
working?
(22:56:11) xxxxx: phillw: Should do, yes.
(22:56:27) xxxxx: phillw: I just smoketested it on my G3 and G5, and
both work.
(22:56:57) phillw: great, so the cron build tomorrow should put the
ppc-lubuntu testers back in the chase?
(22:57:45) xxxxx: phillw: Depending on how quickly I get it
migrated, but probably yes.
(22:58:38) phillw: xxxxx: scheduled to start at 16:29 (UTC) is that
enough time for you?
(22:59:22) phillw: or would you prefer an extra 24 hours?
(23:00:43) xxxxx: Oh, indeed, it's almost a day until the next
build. Yeah, that one should be fine.
(23:01:31) phillw: xxxxx: okies, if you are sure, I will email the
testers, obviously they are chomping on the bit to get back to work!
(23:02:43) xxxxx: I make no guarantees that various DRM/KMS drivers
are working (I don't run consoles on any of my PPC machines, they're
all servers), but these kernels at least boot on all my kit, which
is a step up from the previous version. :P
(23:03:05) phillw: there's one sure fire way to check :P
(23:03:27) xxxxx: 3.11 includes a pretty massive changeset to the
radeon driver, so that could cut both ways. Maybe it's drastically
improved, or maybe it has a ton of new bugs that break it on !x86...
We'll see.
(23:04:55) phillw: as always, we rely on the testers to let us
know :) That the promise to have a kernel that at least stood a
chance of working has been kept, they will be happy and do not
'rant' over bugs.
(23:05:42) xxxxx: Well, I can nearly guarantee that it should boot
on pretty much any hardware we've supported before. Between yyy and
I, we have a pretty wide array of stuff to boot and stress test on.
(23:05:49) xxxxx: It's just that he and I both only run headless
servers.
(23:05:51) xxxxx: So, we'll see. :)
(23:07:07) phillw: the graphics cards that apple used were and are
always an issue... they have gotten used to workarounds, only by
letting it into the wild can these issues with the graphics cards be
started to be investigated :)
(23:07:38) phillw: xxxxx: many thanks to you and yyy for this work,
I do know ppc for desktops is a low priority :)
(23:07:42) xxxxx: It's not the cards, per se, it's that the radeon
driver has become very x86-centric, and very few people care about
fixing the PPC bugs with it.
(23:08:09) xxxxx: nouveau seems to suffer fewer of those issues (for
whatever reason), so the nvidia cards that Apple shipped with later
G5s seem to be in better shape.
(23:09:35) phillw: we're still working with G3's and g4's... as long
as the darn thing will boot, the graphics cards could be seen as
nearly a seperate branch of their own.
(23:10:19) xxxxx: Yeah, I haven't tried running X on the ATi Rage128
in my G3 for, like, a decade.
(23:10:38) xxxxx: I assume it probably sort of works. But I have no
idea, and don't care, as it's a headless router/firewall in my
house. :P
(23:11:14) xxxxx: Though, the offb driver would work for boring old
2D X. You'd just get zero acceleration.
So, allow the daily to build and start testing!!!
Regards,
Phill.
1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#When_do_they_build.3F
--
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
--
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa
Post to : lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa
More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
