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[Sergio Meneses <sergioandresmeneses@xxxxxxxxx>]

I am agree!

Sergio Meneses
Linux User: #478743
Ubuntu User: #24056


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>
>  On 11/06/2013 07:55 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>
>>    Hi,
>>
>>  Kindly have a read at:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
>>
>>  I have updated this Wiki Page with some new information which a bit more
>> in details than here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#Lubuntu_Community
>>
>>  Myself and some 'active' members of Lubuntu have discussed lately about
>> the activities of the team in general. We have noticed there are some
>> people who remain silent for months without any notice and then show up
>> suddenly then disappear again. We noticed that the list of members need to
>> be cleaned up so the Team Leaders of Lubuntu know at least who is
>> contributing and ask them for help and who is not. We have noticed that the
>> overall activities have been much less and while this could be normal in
>> regular releases at this stage, it is NOT for this cycle - why? simply
>> because Lubuntu 14.04 is going to be an LTS Release and that requires lots
>> of 'TEAM' work and I insist, TEAM WORK.
>>
>>  Also, we *(active members of the team) *came to understand that
>> previously, some tasks/roles were being handled by only 1-2 people if not
>> only one. This has proved to add unbelievable stress and huge burden over
>> the shoulder of those people. And, in most times, when they were in need to
>> help and support, they got very little bit of it. THIS must NOT be the case
>> in this cycle. And, I am sorry to be extra honest here but I will simply
>> leave Lubuntu once and for all if I will continue to feel that this is a
>> few people job rather than a Community and Team work.
>>
>>  Team work = "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not
>> let things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that someone
>> else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after it."
>>
>>    Lubuntu needs you for the coming 6 months and even after releasing
>> Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, whether it will be supported for 2 years or more Lubuntu
>> will still need you. Please, don't let Lubuntu down!
>>
>>  You may wonder what is the big deal behind all that but for myself and
>> some other members, this is called Loyalty and being in love with Lubuntu
>> which will make you dedicate some of your own time to do things and most of
>> the time, do more than what you are supposed to do. Lubuntu has a special
>> magic that not only can breathe new life into an old semi-dead machine but
>> can take you far away and open your mind and change your life.
>>
>>  Before the Real Hard and Tough Work starts for 14.04, it is a very good
>> time to discuss such issues before 'active' people get busy with testing,
>> bugs, etc and won't have time to stuff like that :)
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
>>
>>  Hopefully, we can get this list updated soon!
>>  Because, we do need to know who is contributing and participating and
>> who is not. At least, for our information and I see nothing wrong with that
>> :)
>>
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/team-activity
>>
>>  Thank you!
>>
>>  --
>>   Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>> Best Regards,
>>  amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>  Areas of Involvement<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
>>  My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Aere Greenway <Aere@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>> Ali:
>>
>> As I indicated in my last reply to you, at present, I am very busy, and
>> only contribute occasionally.
>>
>> If the criteria for being on this list as being able to put in more time,
>> then by all means, feel free to remove me from this e-mail list.
>>
>> - Aere
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Aere
>>
>>  Hi Aere,
>
> I am sorry if my email wasn't clear for you. Allow me to explain in easy,
> simple and clear way :)
>
> 1- I am afraid you are confused between the mailing list as a way to
> communicate with everyone and being active as a contributor :)  I am sure I
> have explained that to you months ago but I'd be glad to explain that
> again. I am sure I was extra clear about the two groups that our community
> consists of: Users and Contributors. For Users, they are not required to be
> active. For Contributors, they 'are required' to be active :)
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Community
>
> 2- NO ONE will remove ANYONE. This is a Mailing List for everyone and as
> long as we are following these guidelines:
> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists - then everything
> is fine. No one is going to remove you, Aere :)
>
> 3- This is a usual routine we do from time to time. What is special this
> time is we will go for an LTS release and we do need to re-evaluate
> everything to avoid the previous mistakes and adopt the best approach to
> not only have a rock solid system but a strong team that is capable of
> whatever task/challenge it may have of face :)
>
> I hope this is clear and if not, please let me know and I will be very
> glad to re-explain.
>
> If you think you are busy then for sure, you can simply add your name
> here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Users
>
> Before, we had only a list of actual members and active contributors but
> now, Users can also add their names :)
>
> Thank you!
>
> @Phill, Lars and others who updated their entries: THANK YOU SO MUCH :D
>
> Have a great time everyone!
>
>
> --
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> Best Regards,
> amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
> My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
>
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