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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ali,

regarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu and
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu was the first wiki area for Lubuntu, as the
documentation for users grew, that part of it moved to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu  (You can see that is so, by
looking at the link 'How To Wiki' which points to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation The welcome page is
there because that page is thrown up by searching for lubuntu :)

The community section of the wiki (help.ubuntu.com) is for entries that are
written to assist people, information about the team, development work etc,
are correctly held on the wiki.ubuntu.com section.

I'm sure the paragraphs that you refer to can be tidied up :)

As for errant links, they are no doubt part of the legacy of the
documentation side now being on it's 3rd, and permanent, home.

Feel free to tidy up, permission is not required :)

Regards,

Phill.



On 11 February 2013 13:06, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yet again, I'm SO confused and I do hope we could solve and clear this
> confusion once and for all.
>
> *Issue No.1*
> *
> *
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>
> VS
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu
>
> Why they are different? they should be the same, right? After all, these
> two pages are for users NOT for us. We need to make their life easier and
> it is not their fault these two pages are not the same!
>
>
> *Issue No.2*
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu
>
> Whether you agree with me regarding issue no.1 or not, please have a read
> (carefully) on that page. No doubt Karl has done a great job on the Wiki
> Area but why the page is so messed up? why we are talking about Ubuntu?
> then suddenly Lubuntu? then after that Ubuntu again?
>
> Welcome to Lubuntu <http://lubuntu.net/>, the official LXDE<http://lxde.org/>
>>  Ubuntu <http://www.ubuntu.com/> derivative.
>> Ubuntu is a free operating system<http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/operating_system.html> supported
>> by the Ubuntu community. Ubuntu was founded on the principle of
>> humanity, or kindness. With the dedication of hundreds of Ubuntu
>> volunteers, we can produce a quality computing system. New versions of
>> Lubuntu software <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software> are released
>> every six months, typically in the months of April and October.
>> Ubuntu is the premiere Debian GNU <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNULinux>
>> / Linux <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux> operating system. By basing
>> on Debian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian>, Ubuntu has the biggest
>> online community, the biggest user-base, and the biggest software
>> repositories. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_repository> Lubuntu
>> features a full suite of software<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Setup#Applications> on
>> the CD, and includes an "App Store" for automatically installing many more
>> applications.
>
>
> Either I'm crazy or that paragraph is really messed up?!
>
> And the LXDE Paragraph, if I'm not mistaken, at the login manager, there
> is no LXDE Session anymore so perhaps that should be Openbox session? which
> is IMHO, whether LXDE or Openbox or whatever session it is, it should not
> be on the home page of Lubuntu Wiki. Let's keep in mind this page is the
> first step that a beginner or fresh user will come and read so it must be
> as simple and as easy as possible.
>
> Then
>
> Learn more about Lubuntu at the Lubuntu Website <http://lubuntu.net/> or
>> the Wikipedia entry <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu>
>
>
> I have no idea what this sentence is doing at the middle of two different
> paragraphs??!!
> and even it should be here, we don't want users to go to Wikipedia to
> learn more about Lubuntu, we want them to go to our Wiki Pages. After all,
> a link of Lubuntu Website and Wikipedia should be mentioned on the bottom
> of the page and indeed, it is there so why the duplication?
>
> Back to Lubuntu Documentation<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation>
>
>
> Totally needless to be here - there is a tab on the top of the page
> already.
>
> and then:
>
> If you'd like to get involved, you should learn how to report bugs.<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs> Also,
>> we have a separate wiki for the Lubuntu team.<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved> Lubuntu
>> is powered by the community!
>
>
> Reporting bugs is not the only part of contribution - GettingInvolved page
> has all what a user needs to learn about contributions.
> All in all, that sentence should not be there IMHO.
>
>
> Finally, I have learned to highlight a problem and offer a solution as
> well so there you go:
>
> Suggestion No.1:
> These two pages MUST be similar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntushould be similar to
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>
> Suggestion No.2: If you disagree about suggestion no1, then please, agree
> to edit that page and make it simple, logical and reasonable.
>
>
> End of story, I'm very much up to this, I just want your green light and I
> want to know whether this email makes sense or not?
>
> Thank you!
>
> P.S.
> If a Lubuntu Member (me) is confused about these two pages so how about a
> fresh new user of Lubuntu?
>
> --
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> amjjawad*
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