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[Jean Weisbuch <jean@xxxxxxxxxx>]

As long as its limited to beta and alpha releases i dont think its that 
bad to enable it by default as users using these versions should already 
be aware of their not production-ready state.
As it seems to be simple to enable/disable the plugin with the 
"feedback" variable, it shouldnt be a problem to deactivate it if the 
server is upgraded to a GA release.

I cant say about the real interest of the harvested informations but it 
could be of interest to see if a significant number of users are trying 
to install these versions on exotic architectures/OSes or with a very 
high cpu count for example.
Collecting the libc version (when applicable) could also be interresting 
i think.

Le 09/03/2015 21:47, Adam Scott a écrit :
> Maybe make it an option when installing?
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Justin Swanhart <greenlion@xxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:greenlion@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I agree with Kristian.  Given the way it works, the statistics are
>     really meaningless and I feel you shouldn't drive important
>     choices based on bad statistics.  I personally would suggest
>     displaying a link to a feedback/survey form with web downloads and
>     display a message after rpm/deb installation that says something
>     like "please visit http://blah/blah/blah/survey to tell us more
>     about the features you use and help direct the future development
>     of MariaDB".  This has an added bonus: not all users know about
>     all features, and a list/survey of the important and interesting
>     ones could get more users to use them.
>
>     Just my $.02
>
>     --Justin
>
>     On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:19 AM, Kristian Nielsen
>     <knielsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:knielsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>         Michael Widenius <monty@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:monty@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> writes:
>
>         > for the alpha so I suggested Sergei today that we should
>         enable it for
>         > the beta period of MariaDB 10.0
>
>         (10.*1* beta, I guess?)
>
>         > As most MariaDB users should know, the feedback is totally
>         anonymous
>         > and no private or sensitive information is being sent.
>         >
>         > Any comments, suggestions or recommendations?
>
>         I think it is a bad idea. Please do not do it.
>
>         "Phone-home" is a misfeature in any product, and even more so
>         in system
>         software like a database.
>
>         And besides, the information is much less useful than you
>         think, because of
>         unknown, but probably extreme, data skew. In fact, it will
>         probably be more
>         harmful than useful because people will use bad data to
>         justify bad
>         decisions.
>
>         Experience supports this point of view with our download
>         numbers. They do not
>         include apt-get / yum / etc. installations, which judging from IRC
>         conversations are the majority. Yet people continuely refer to
>         them as though
>         they mean anything, just because they are there.
>
>          - Kristian.