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[Federico Razzoli <federico_raz@xxxxxxxx>]

Hi Sergei!

I was wondering the same! Justin's explanation is probably correct, but I think that various discussions in this list proven that a part of the community badly wants this feature.
I wrote a unit tester in SQL some time ago (I know it may sound weird, but I needed it to test several things, from procedures to query time, and even metrics). It was insanely hard. I mean - I think I can write a unit tester in JavaScript or PHP or even BASH in a few hours, with all the features I want. But SQL is full of traps, so it took weeks (of course it was not my only task).
Some of the features that have been discussed in this list could have been implemented as stored procedures. For example, extensions to KILL. It may not be the perfect solution but, well, it is not reasonable to expect that you implement every single need/idea I have during my work. If I could write general purpose stored procedures in any decent language, I would do it, and then would push them to GitHub.
It seems that some people agree on this but... still nothing happens. Even PL/SQL parser seems to have higher priority than external languages! :( 
Is there anything we can do to convince the team?

Bye,
Federico



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Lun 7/11/16, Sergei Golubchik <serg@xxxxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: Re: [Maria-discuss] on stored procedures
 A: "Justin Swanhart" <greenlion@xxxxxxxxx>
 Cc: "Federico Razzoli" <federico_raz@xxxxxxxx>, "Maria Discuss" <maria-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Data: Lunedì 7 novembre 2016, 22:42
 
 Hi, Justin!
 
 On Nov 07, Justin Swanhart
 wrote:
 > We discussed it here and it
 seemed vary popular.  WL-820.
 
 I know, right?
 
 A cool and useful feature, I'd say. I
 cannot understand why it's
 constantly
 being pushed down for the last 10 years.
 
 I still hope we get it someday.
 
 > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Sergei
 Golubchik <serg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 wrote:
 > > Hi, Federico!
 > >
 > > On Nov 07,
 Federico Razzoli wrote:
 > > > Some
 good points from Bill Karwin:
 > > >
 https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-reasons-not-to-use-or-
 > >
 not-use-stored-procedures/answer/Bill-Karwin
 > >
 > > Thanks.
 > >
 > > These are
 valid points, and some of them are related.
 > > For example, "does not have a
 rich library of functions or standard
 >
 > procedures" that follows from "does not
 support packages".
 > > Which
 might be fixed in https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-10591
 > >
 > > External
 languages for stored procedures - that's a very cool
 feature,
 > > and patches exist for
 many years. But, apparently, it's more cool than
 > > practically useful? There were almost
 no requests for it, not when I was
 > >
 in MySQL, not in MariaDB. And, frankly, I do not know why,
 this looks
 > > insanely useful to
 me.
 
 Regards,
 Sergei
 Chief Architect
 MariaDB
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