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[Jeffrey Rufino <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ruben,

Is this concept similar to Lighting Network?

Regards,

Jeff

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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Ruben <rsomsen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> Tadge Dryja's Discreet Log Contracts (DLC) can be combined with Andrew
> Poelstra's Adaptor Signatures (AS). I'm simply describing the combination
> of the two existing concepts without any fundamental changes, but I thought
> it was worth writing out explicitly since I haven't seen any write-up.
> Hopefully it doesn't contain any errors.
>
> Starting from Schnorr signature [R, s].
>
> In DLC, the oracle will reveal one of multiple possible s values as part
> of signing the outcome of an event. This s is essentially a private key for
> which the public key S can be calculated ahead of time (because R is
> committed to in advance).
>
> In AS, instead of just R (essentially a public key), you add a second
> public key P of which the payer wishes to obtain the private key p from the
> payee. Only by revealing p can the payee make the signature valid, and thus
> receive the payment.
>
> If we use S in place of P, we have essentially combined DLC and AS.
>
> I believe this reduces the complexity of the Bitcoin contracts described
> in Dryja's DLC paper, since it is no longer possible to submit the wrong
> state (the signature won't be valid).
>
> As a side note, DLC + graftroot can achieve the same thing.
>
>
> More detailed example:
>
> Alice and Bob (A and B) want to bet 1 BTC on whether it will rain
> tomorrow.
>
> Olivia will publish "yes" or "no" under her key O and commitment R.
>
> This means there are two possible values for S:
>
> S1 = R + hash(R, "yes")*O
> S2 = R + hash(R, "no")*O
>
> Alice and Bob create a payment channel under key A + B = C with 1 BTC each.
>
> They propose two possible channel updates: 2 BTC for Alice if it rains, or
> 2 BTC for Bob if it doesn't.
>
> The channel update (simplified to single key C) where Alice wins is
> signed with:
>
> R1 = r*G + S1
> s' = r + hash(R1, transaction)*c
>
> Note that we wrote s' because s is not complete. We added S1 to R, so we
> need to add s1 to s' in order to get s.
>
> And similarly for Bob:
>
> R2 = r*G + S2
> s' = r + hash(R2, transaction)*c
>
> Let's say Bob was right and Olivia signs "no", thereby revealing s2. This
> now completes the signature: s = s' + s2.
>
> s*G == R2 +  hash(R2, transaction)*C
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ruben Somsen
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 4:29 AM, Andrew Poelstra <apoelstra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yep, I was around MIT a few days ago and Tadge explained the proposal to
>> me. Like pay-to-contract, it works with ECDSA or Schnorr, and is totally
>> compatible with Mimblewimble.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 03, 2017 at 01:50:12PM -0400, Ignotus Peverell wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Tadge just published a paper very much along the lines of Andrew's
>> scriptless scripts and other proposals we've seen on the list:
>> >
>> > https://adiabat.github.io/dlc.pdf
>> >
>> > It describes a form of futures contract with an Oracle that only relies
>> on time-based transactions and Schnorr. Seems we could support that form of
>> contract as well.
>> >
>> > - Igno
>>
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