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[Tim Cook <timothywayne.cook@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Shinji,

I hope you do not mind that I have copied this to the mailing list?

These things are important for everyone to participate in.

I also wanted to introduce you to everyone since you are the project
lead for the OSHIP Ruby implementation (OSHIPrb).

A linnk to all MLHIM related projects is available on the MLHIM
Launchpad site at https://launchpad.net/mlhim 

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 23:17 +0900, Shinji KOBAYASHI wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Yes, I want to create extra demo. 

Yes, the reason I mentioned that was because I wasn't sure what time
constraints you are under to finish this demo and how that might affect
how quickly you get your OSHIPrb branch(es) setup.

> I also want to refactor all of the codes
> and models. The openEHR specification has many nested inheritances,
> but inheritance
> cause inappropriate dependency. 

Yes.  We have struggled with this on the Python project as well and I
was not able to get any acknowledgement of it being an issue from within
the openEHR mailing lists. 

We now have an excellent Python project manager (Deigo) and a great team
of developers.  They are currently re-factoring the code.  So maybe they
can lend some advice to you on this issue?

> I think we need more simple archetype model
> which can bare clinical information structures.

Yes.  There is a group of us that is currently working on expressing
constraints on the reference model using XML Schemas.  This essentially
eliminates the entire constraint section of the openEHR Archetype
Constraint Model.  We still have things to work out since at the same
time we are working on simplifying the tools that domain experts will
need to use to create their models.  We do not think that domain experts
should have to be completely knowledgeable about the inner workings of
multi-level modeling in order for them to be able to contribute their
knowledge models. 

I have committed some examples that could be used as templates to help
get the conversation started.  I have already shared these ideas with a
sub-group here.  There are still details to be worked out but I think we
are moving forward.  They are available here:
https://code.launchpad.net/~cdd-dev/cdd/mm-cds You will need to install
Freemind to use them
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page 

Luciana and Sergio has shown these ideas to some physicians and I know
that they received some valuable feedback but I have not heard the
details yet.  Maybe they can respond here?

> I would like to construct OSHIPrb with my refactoring. I consider and
> check all of the
> codes in transportation from openEHR.jp to OSHIPrb.

Okay.  Great!  Maybe some people here would like to join you in working
on this?  I will also work to recruit more Ruby developers to join you
on the OSHIPrb team: https://launchpad.net/oshiprb 

Cheers,
Tim


> 
> 2010年7月15日19:17 Tim Cook <timothywayne.cook@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > Hi Shinji,
> >
> > No problem on the time needed.  That is why I set up a code branch as a
> > mirror.  I know that you need to get your demo running and if I can help
> > by doing testing I will.  Just let me know where the install
> > instructions are located.
> >
> > I do not want to give you something extra to do at this point.  So
> > please take your time doing the transition.  If you want me to do so I
> > can help move your current bug reports etc.
> >
> > Do you have design plans documented anywhere?  I can help by making a
> > copy of those as Launchpad (LP) Blueprints and then it will be easier
> > for you to see how bug reports and blueprints are linked to the code
> > tree.
> >
> > Again, I'll do what I can to help you.  But please concentrate on the
> > work you need to do for your students.  Again, we can leave the code as
> > a mirror of your svn until you are ready.  Okay?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 14:26 +0900, Shinji KOBAYASHI wrote:
> >> Hi Tim,
> >>
> >> Thank you for set up oshiprb-dev.
> >> However, I have only few experience on bzr.
> >> I am learning about bzr usage and Launchpad as a developer.
> >> I might cause some misconfiguration, but please be patient until
> >> we are similar to bzr.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Shinji
> >>
> >> 2010年7月15日8:23 Tim Cook <timothywayne.cook@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > Hi Aki,
> >> >
> >> > You should receive two emails notifying you that you are a member of the
> >> > oship-dev team (currently the Python but everyone is welcome team)and
> >> > the oshiprb-dev team. The latter one is the Ruby implementation team and
> >> > Shinji is an administrator there.
> >> >
> >> > Welcome!
> >> >
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 07:57 +0900, 立川察理 wrote:
> >> >> akimichi
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Timothy Cook, MSc
Project Lead - Multi-Level Healthcare Information Modeling
http://www.mlhim.org 

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