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Re: [Ayatana] User feedback from the new WM control order
- To: Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Ayatana] User feedback from the new WM control order
- From: Luke Benstead <kazade@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:12:39 +0100
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Just to quickly add my experience to this. I've not yet accidentally
hit the close button, however I have on several occasions hit minimize
when aiming for the Applications menu. I also tweeted about it in
frustration: http://twitter.com/kazade/status/12155652979
I'm now totally confused, because I'm liking the left side but this
continual mishitting will probably force me to change it, which is a
shame. If we do pick up Gnome Shell for 10.10 where there is a
hoverable "Activities" menu in the same place as the current
Applications menu then I think this will just get worse.
Luke.
On 15 April 2010 09:51, Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I've gave the buttons a chance ever since they were proposed.
> My overall conclusion is that it is not difficult to get used
> to with respect to "forgetting the old habits". After a couple
> of days I was already going always to the left side by instinct.
>
> But I also concluded, from actual incidents, that accidental
> clicks are something that will always sporadically happen
> despite how used to you are. Most of it has to do with the
> thinness of the menu bar.
>
> I've recently moved the buttons back to the right, and for me
> the feel was of closing a papercut: a trivial fix to a small
> but annoying usability issue that is probably affecting a lot
> of users.
>
> When the "exciting ideas for the right" side are actually
> implemented I will give it another chance. Until then, I see
> no reason for deliberately introducing a papercut in my
> desktop for no actual gain. :)
>
>
> Le jeudi 15 avril 2010 à 13:38 +0530, Vishnoo a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not to rehash the same old boring topic, but to just give a user
>> feedback from using the 2 new positions of the window controls.
>>
>> I'v been patiently trying to use the new positioning and trying to see
>> if it is better or doesnt really matter.
>>
>> With the "old"[earlier alpha order] order of < max,min,close: > on the
>> left side, I used to occasionally hit the maximize button instead of
>> hitting the "File" menu in the menubar. But this wasnt a big deal as i
>> could unmaximize the window and no harm was done and nothing was lost.
>>
>> But with the final order < close,min,max: > I find it easier to
>> accidentally *close* the windows and it is rather frustrating when I
>> have to re-open the nautilus window and get back to the location /
>> re-open firefox & re-load all the pages. Luckily most apps ask for
>> confirmation before closing unsaved documents, but still a bit
>> frustrating when being prompted when all i wanted to do was open the
>> "File" menu.
>>
>> >From using the new positions, probably < max,min,close: > was much
>> better.
>>
>> The close on the left-most probably works better in OSX ,since they have
>> a global menu and the menubar isnt near the window controls.
>> However, we have a very thin menubar [20-25px?] and it is easier to
>> accidentally hit the window controls instead of the menu options.
>>
>> Since I end-up accidentally closing the windows on several occasions , I
>> had sighed and just considered this a PEBKAC and changed the order in my
>> system to < max,min: close > [close on the
>> right-side.]
>>
>> What prompted me to send the feedback is, I noticed this >
>> https://twitter.com/popey/statuses/12207605002 and thought there are
>> probably many more users going "D'Oh!", in front of their computer
>> screens which the UX isnt being aware of.
>
>
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