Re: [Ayatana] Unexpected close functionality

[Shane Fagan <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 23:43 +1200, Benjamin Humphrey wrote:
> I agree with David.
> 
> 
> Fix the bug with Rhythmbox opening in the last state, and let's do
> that very soon. It's been around for two years, which is far too long.
> 
> 
> I don't agree that minimize should minimize to the notification area,
> and close should close the program for those particular applications.
> We'd only be creating another problem - people would expect it to
> minimize to the window list/dock/whatever they're using for window
> management, like all other programs.
> 

Ill give up on the idea to use the minimise button :)

> 
> I think because these particular apps are designed to run in the
> background and are used often when multitasking, we should keep the
> close button minimizing to the notification area unless they
> specifically choose "Quit."

I still dont think that its right to use the close button. Thats why I
suggested in my last email making another button just to minimise to the
notification area. 

> 
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Shane Fagan
> <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         Hmmmm would it be crazy if I propose making a different button
>         for
>         minimising to the notification area? Its just if the close
>         button means
>         close the program in most users mind and the minimise button
>         means
>         leaving the window open but hiding it away, then what should
>         the new
>         user expect to minimise into the notification area?
>         
>         On the opening rhythmbox and empathy I think the window should
>         be opened
>         always and never open hidden away in the notification area.
>         
>         
>         -fagan
>         
>         
>         On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 12:17 +0100, David Siegel wrote:
>         > I witnessed this bug biting users many times over the 11
>         hours of user
>         > testing we conducted over the past couple weeks. User opens
>         > Rhythmbox... and it appears as if nothing has happened.
>         Empathy
>         > sometimes has the same problem. Both of these issues have
>         been
>         > reported as paper cuts for a while, but there is reluctance
>         to change
>         > the behavior because upstream considers it a feature.
>         They're wrong,
>         > it's broken, let's fix it.
>         >
>         > David
>         >
>         > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Conscious User
>         <conscioususer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>         > >
>         > >> Just because other programs are doing it doesnt make the
>         functionality
>         > >> correct. Why cant the minimise button be the one that
>         minimises to the
>         > >> notification area? Its how its done with Windows media
>         player from what
>         > >> I remember too.
>         > >
>         > > But then you are replacing an unexpected functionality
>         with *another*
>         > > unexpected functionality... I know I would be surprised in
>         seeing that
>         > > the program went to the tray instead of the taskbar...
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >
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