On Oct 28, 2010, at 09:40 AM, Conscious User wrote: >I'm not talking about ***IF*** they are used to it. I'm talking about >***HOW*** they are used to it. So, I'm a long time OS X user and I've always been pretty happy about their user interactions. Before you jump down my throat :), let me also say that starting with Lucid and especially with Maverick, my use of the OS X desktop has narrowed to just two applications: iCal and Cubase (and *very* occasional use of Mail.app). The Maverick desktop and application suite are really fantastic and things like the new font and dark Ambiance themes make it really pleasant, in general. Here are my data points. >Do they feel that using the menu bar is not frequent enough for the distance >to be a problem? To be honest, I'm much more of a keyboard guy. One awesome thing about the Ubuntu desktop is how driveable it is from the keyboard. Exceptions include the web browsers (following links) and modulo bugs in indicator-appmenu. But when I do have to go to the global menu bar, the distance is not a problem for me my 15" laptops and dual-monitor desktops. When I can afford a 30" monitor, I'll let you know how that goes. :) >Is a single mouse throw enough for reaching the menu bar, despite the monitor >size? Okay, I don't use the mouse. Where I use a pointing device I've got trackpads and trackballs. In neither case is the throw to the menu bar inconvenient. >How many of them use maximized apps? For me, it's mixed. I maximize my web browser and mail client, vertically maximize my terminals and editors (and occasionally some non-primary application menus), and do not maximize other windows. >How many of them keep apps close to the top left corner? I do not. I tend to have a rightward orientation, which causes problems with osd-notifier bubbles that completely interrupt my workflow at the most inconvenient times. >How many of them use keyboard shortcuts? Me, all the time. >How important and frequently used is the menu bar in the most popular OSX >apps? For me, menu bar use is more frequent on OS X because OS X menus are less consistently driveable from the keyboard. One reason why I use Claws as my mail client for example is because it supports easy remapping of keybindings (including updating the keychord in the menus). I was actually quite surprised when I realized this was not a general Gnome feature! ;) >Those are all relevant questions that can go way beyond simply "defending". Hopefully the data points above help. I am clearly not a typical desktop user, but I might not be a completely atypical developer desktop user. Please don't forget about us too! -Barry
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