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["Leigh Tate" <leigh.tate@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Geoff,

I can so relate to your feelings about the changes to NewDocs. I still have to stop and think to find pages the team uses. Things were so simple in the early days, *sigh*. I suppose that's what happens with a community project, however. I'm thinking about proposing that the helpful links page be removed from the L page and given it's own spot elsewhere; I just haven't figures out where.

The tool of high hit pages is overwhelming, isn't it? Thankfully you figured out how to find the pages as web links. Actually, going through it, checking the pages, and sorting it out could be a helpful job for a new or temporary team member. It doesn't really relate to what you've been doing. i.e. finding new pages. It's probably more up my street and I figured I could treat like the Bank and only focus on the relevant letter. For other purposes it could be ignored or kept in the back of our minds as information in case we need it.

Regarding sacking you, we're all volunteers!!! IOW, none of us has the authority. Even with a resignation, and I know I do a lot of the writing for the team, I would feel neither comfortable nor qualified to write anybody's resignation as a wiki thread announcement. I figure if and when the time comes, I won't even write one for myself. I confess response (or lack of until NewDocs birthday) has been a bit disappointing there, but at least we're keeping NewDocs out there as an active project. Maybe we've done too much recruiting and folks are afraid if they say something they'll be corralled into "volunteering", LOL

Anyway, I think we need to seriously consider your points and objections, Geoff. Thank you so much for at least taking the time to express them. It's far too easy to just get carried along and never stop to analyze changes to a given project. Not all ideas are good ones and not all change is progress.

Best wishes,
Leigh
----- Original Message -----
From: Geoff Smith
Sent: 02/02/14 01:58 AM
To: newdocs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Newdocs] But 1st, team guidelines(?) [was Re: My Resignation.]

On 02/02/14 15:45, Geoff Smith wrote: > On 02/02/14 14:53, Geoff Smith wrote: >> On 02/02/14 14:16, Leigh Tate wrote: >>> Geoff, you really deserve a lot more credit than you've allowed us >>> to share. NewDocs was your brain child and you worked hard in the >>> formative stages. I know others encouraged and helped, but you did >>> the grunt work. The only reason I got involved was because of you, >>> and because of your gentle, unassuming leadership. You've always led >>> by example, from the doing to the way you've encouraged others to >>> become involved. Your vision was infectious. Your vision has been a >>> success. >>> >>> There are absolutely no hard feelings toward your resignation on my >>> part. Of course I would encourage you to stay on, even at a lower >>> key. You grasp certain aspects of NewDocs differently than I do or >>> David does. I've relied on that during the times I'm puzzled or >>> uncertain about what I'm doing. But I know it wouldn't be respectful >>> to try to pressure you to stay on. You know your own needs best and >>> I must respect that. Hopefully from time to time you'll still feel >>> like putting your 2 cents worth in. And I hope if you have another >>> of your good ideas you'll share it. All of that would be most >>> welcome! But only at your own pace and as you feel inspired to do >>> so, my friend. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Leigh >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Geoff Smith >>> Sent: 02/01/14 09:13 PM >>> To: newdocs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: [Newdocs] But 1st, team guidelines(?) [was Re: My >>> Resignation.] >>> >>> On 02/02/14 12:54, Geoff Smith wrote: > On 02/02/14 12:22, Geoff >>> Smith wrote: >> On 01/02/14 11:39, Geoff Smith wrote: >>> On >>> 01/02/14 08:35, Geoff Smith wrote: >>>> On 01/02/14 08:29, Svetlana >>> Belkin wrote: >>>>> On 01/31/2014 04:26 PM, Leigh Tate wrote: >>>>>> >>> Good bye Geoff. I respect your decision and wish you well. >>>>> >>> Good-bye Geoff, thanks for your ideas and I also wish you well. >>> >>>>> >>>>> Svetlana Belkin >>>> Thanks to you all, >>>> >>>> >>> Cheers, >>>> Geoff. >>>> >>> It's been nice knowing you David, >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Geoff. >>> >> It was an accumulation of a number of >>> factors that led me to my >> decision. >> >> I am generally >>> disillusioned with the mediocre performance on the >> Wiki thread. >>> >> >> Things just got a bit much for my tired old brain to >>> adequately take >> it all in! >> >> I hope there are no hard >>> feelings as a result of my decision to resign. >> >> The first thing >>> I have thought of in the last two mornings when I >> wake up is >>> NewDocs. >> >> Cheers, >> Geoff. >> > BTW. The reference to the Wiki >>> Thread was the low number of views to > the effort put in. > Thanks >>> for the kind words on the Wiki thread Leigh - I don't expect I will >>> respond there. I didn't expect there would be any avenue for me to >>> have a few words after 2014-02-01 Cheers till I am finally cut off! >>> Geoff. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~newdocs Post to : >>> newdocs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe : >>> https://launchpad.net/~newdocs More help : >>> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> >> I'm afraid the "improvements" for NewDocs are just a little too hard >> for me to comprehend. You now need robots to carry out >> the day to day tasks. There is little enjoyment in carrying out these >> tasks as far as I am concerned. Newdocs used to be >> much simpler and more enjoyable to carry out the day to day tasks. >> The latest tool for example turns up with far more >> prospective pages than is necessary. Well not for me David, I have no >> desire to plough through rubbish and useless pages >> to end up with one one two positive examples. So count me out. As I >> say, you don't need me, you need a robot. I am afraid >> I have little choice but to resign. I am not prepared to conduct the >> work as is expected. >> >> Cheers, >> Geoff. >> >> > I assume that there will be an announcement in the Wiki thread re my > resignation (due to dissatisfaction?) That would > be nice! I apologize for not addressing your post but at present I > feel a little riled. Thank you for your kind words but I > suspect that it would be all or nothing for me. There is little room > here for this little foot soldier. > > Cheers and best wishes, > Geoff. > Actually thinking about things, I believe I would prefer to be sacked. This situation is really dragging on. Kindly advise how this desire could best be met! Cheers, Geoff. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~newdocs Post to : newdocs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~newdocs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp