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["Shabbir (Sohel) Merchant" <shabbir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I do not want to start a new controvert here but would like to put in to
perspective some background of PowerEmail. The initial version of Power
Email was developed at Pragmatic, India paid by its client  and was taken
over by Mr. Thomas and his company stating that he was using only few
hundred lines of code from initial version. He did not even hesitate to
discredit our developers and our company who worked hard to get this version
in place.

I am not taking any sides here, but I hope you got taste of *your own
medicine. As you sow, so shall you reap

Shabbir.

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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Sharoon Thomas
<sharoonthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hi Fil,
>
> You are right!
> But thats the official website of Open ERP India. Its a direct link to
> their website.
>
> So if there is a trojan, its on their site.
>
> I have copied this mail to the right people who can correct that.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:00 AM, office <office@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  If what you say is true, then you're right to be angry. But, please be
>> careful with links in email or forums because your link
>> http://blog.openerp.co.in/?p=400 from your mail is infected with JS /
>> Agent Trojan NCA.
>> Thanks,
>> Dumitru Gilcescu
>> Fil System
>>
>>  *From:* Sharoon Thomas <sharoonthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:54 AM
>> *To:* Fabien Pinckaers <fp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Cc:* Openerp Expert Framework<openerp-expert-framework@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Stephane
>> Wirtel <stw@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Varun
>> Kumar <varun.kumar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ;
>> openerp-community-leaders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [Openerp-community] Injustice,plagiarism and insult of
>> community work
>>
>> Hello Fabien and the Open ERP community,
>>
>> I request your attention to this post dated 2nd of May:
>> http://blog.openerp.co.in/?p=400
>>
>> It is a clear duplication of work done by Open ERP SA on the community
>> module 'Powerwmail' .
>>
>> I am not surprised but shocked to see this trend repeating again and
>> again. Why is it that the community ideas have to reinvented by Open ERP SA
>> in a different name everytime? It happened with scenario, rml and now I
>> think it is right time to question whether its the right ethics for an
>> opensource project ? To retain the copyright on the Open ERP code Open ERP
>> SA goes to any extend?
>>
>> I understand that it is Open ERP business model that 800EUR (or may be
>> more because of the heavy code) is what is needed for a module to be
>> 'certified'. Is it because the community cannot pay for a community
>> contribution that the effort is duplicated? Well I think contribution of
>> such useful features itself makes openerp more that worth 800EUR because
>> till today I have received numerous mails saying how the work saves every
>> developer couple of days. This is strongly disappointing for any community
>> contributor. What is the point in releasing the code if it is next day going
>> to be duplicated by your paid employees? What is the point of the community
>> if the credits are all for open ERP SA?
>>
>> I draw the attention also to the commitment made by fabien and antoine at
>> the community days in Belgium to all those present there that poweremail
>> would be drawn into official 6.0. I request you to respect the community and
>> your own words.
>>
>> Have a look at the duplicated work:
>> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openerp-commiter/openobject-addons/trunk-mod3-local/annotate/head:/fetchmail/fetchmail.py<http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-commiter/openobject-addons/trunk-mod3-local/annotate/head:/fetchmail/fetchmail.py>
>> The model structure is 90% similar. Logic is 99% similar.
>>
>> I wonder why you could not contribute if there is anything that's not
>> there to the main poweremail code which is open to everybody to edit. (
>> https://code.launchpad.net/~openerp-commiter/poweremail/poweremailtrunk<https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-commiter/poweremail/poweremailtrunk>
>> )
>>
>> I wish you spend your resources and time on playing the fair editor of an
>> opensource project. Not Micro$oft of the opensource world. I may not waste
>> my time on fighting legally or morally for the sake of poweremail again, but
>> be sure that community members will also soon realise that contributing to
>> openerp is waste of time. Who knows if their work will be duplicated by the
>> editor in the next release. You discourage contribution to openerp and I
>> speculate the intention of open ERP SA in holding the copyright of the code
>> whatever they need integrated into the core.
>>
>> When I conclude this mail, I am not sure if I will ever get a reply for
>> this mail from 'Open ERP SA'. But please remember that the more you do this,
>> the more the community moves away from you.
>>
>> Wish you good luck plagiarising!
>>
>> and a simple advice to your Indian team doing all the duplication work:
>> Atleast show the quality of code poweremail has in your duplicated work. I
>> can already see several logical foolishnes in your code and absolute '0' in
>> code quality. Atleast try making something better with all the TODO's that
>> has been left in the code.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Sharoon Thomas
>> Business Analyst & Open Source ERP Consultant
>> CEO @ http://openlabs.co.in
>>
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> Sharoon Thomas
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> CEO @ http://openlabs.co.in
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