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Re: proposal to discuss forking of OpenERP GTK client

 

Hi Fabien,
Totally agree the web client is the future no doubt.

Small correction - that tweet was a joke and it was not me who developed
that tabs functionality but a member of my team.  I'm not a programmer.
The development took longer than 16 minutes however that is not really
relevant, it's done and working nicely.

Regards
Colin


-----Original Message-----
From: openerp-community-bounces+colin=enapps.co.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:openerp-community-bounces+colin=enapps.co.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Fabien Pinckaers
Sent: 11 October 2012 09:03
To: openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] proposal to discuss forking of OpenERP
GTK client

Hello,

We would be glad if someone wants to become the official maintainer of the
GTK client. We can transfert the rights to the current trunk to a team or
~openerp-community.

But in my opinion, there is nothing in the GTK client that the web client
can not do:
  - the web client is faster (especially if not standalone in v7.0)
  - there is nothing that the web client can not do; as en example, the
    v7.0 POS does barcode, touchscreen, non connected mode, ...
  - the web client has shortcuts (in v7.0)
  - the v7.0 web client is so good that nobody will want to use GTK
    anymore

But, more importantly, the web client is modular. It means that if your
accountant or warehouse user need something, you can develop it easily.
A community member, Colin MacMillan, developed tabs for the web client.
It took him 16 minutes of development:
https://twitter.com/ColinMacMillan/status/236788938331791360
As it's a module, you can use tabs or the breadcrumb at your own choice.

I understand that some still consider the GTK as a requirement because as
of v6.0 and before, the GTK client was much better and robust than the web
one. But now, and in the future, the web client is incredingbly good. (and
technologies like GTK or QT are deprecated compared to HTML5)

The reason why we want to stop our efforts on the GTK client is that we
prefer to develop one UI which is great, rather than two UI that are
halfly great.

So, let us know if someone want to maintain the GTK client so that we can
transfer the rights on the trunk branch. But if you want to do it, be
ready to assign 5 full time developers on it. Otherwise it will not be
possible for you to follow the future evolutions and you will be trapped
on old versions, just because you mis-evaluated the web client potential.


Thanks,



On 10/11/2012 09:32 AM, NF informatique wrote:
> Hello everyone !
>
> ++1 for GTK
>
> we installed both web client and GTK. Quickly the web client was only
> used remotly when no GTK-based solution where available, but we mainly
> used GTK client with remote graphical sessions, really more friendly
> that web client.
>
> kind regards
>
> Nicolas Frey
>
> Le 11. 10. 12 09:24, Serpent Consulting Services a écrit :
>> +1 for GTK.
>>
>> Well, the point is old and existing users are not always tech-savvy
>> or fans of social-looking layout like v7 has! Its not so easy for
>> them to move onto web totally.
>>
>> For end users,  the GUI matters. They won't easily understand that
>> its same application and why would they worry about look, they prefer
>> functionalities.
>>
>> It is like someone would tell you, hey since version 7.0, you have to
>> use a new software!
>>
>> So, in our opinion, both the clients are important!
>>
>> On Thursday 11 October 2012 12:40 PM, office wrote:
>>> +1 for GTK client for OE 7.
>>>
>>> Dumitru Gilcescu
>>> Fil System
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2012 09:56 AM, Normunds Vilcans wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>>
>>>> As it seems, that OpenERP S.A. abandoned a development of GTK
>>>> client, but lot of users still want it, I  propose to make
>>>> Community Edition on launchpad and prepare it for ver.7.0 in a couple
of months.
>>>>
>>>> My concerns by not dropping GTK client is:
>>>>
>>>> - production users need stable running, fast client without that
>>>> shit eye candy what in 90% just prevent you to work efficiently,
>>>> - accountants need it,
>>>> - warehouse users need it,
>>>>
>>>> Let's leave web interface for marketing and sales guys.
>>>>
>>>> What is your thoughts on this concern?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Normunds Vilcans
>>>> Alistek, SIA
>>>> Tel: +371 67964296
>>>> Fax: +371 67964296
>>>> Mob: +371 29721272
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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