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Hi Dale,
The key point in openerp project module is "record time spend". So the main reason to use this module should be(In My Personal Opinion):
1- you need record the work time of your employee to pay for their real work time
2- you need record the time your customer consumed to bill them for your real work time
3- you need record the work time of your employee to know the progess of a project or spec task, or utilization for spec employee
So, if you refuse to record task time, project module should not be the best solution for your needs.
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From: "Dale E. Moore"<daleemoore@xxxxxxxxx>;
Date: Thu, Dec 27, 2012 11:45 AM
To: "Eric Caudal"<eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
Cc: "openerp-community"<openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] v61 Tasks Work employee product is units?
I can't be certain it'll be 1/4 an hour units. A product unit duration might be anything, I'll have to keep the conversion formula for X minutes = 1 unit somewhere.
Does it seem unreasonable to you for me to inherit the task work entry view, enter the unit into a new field, calculate the Time Spent and save the unit field along with the old fields populated with my calculated results?
Does this seem completely unreasonable?
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Eric Caudal <eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Maybe you should create a "quarter of hour" or use the decimal accuracy in UoM to 0,25.
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On 12/27/2012 09:50 AM, Dale E. Moore wrote:
Thanks Eric, I appreciate your insight!
The user wants to enter 1 Yoga Class which everyone involved knows is 30 minutes. Or 1 Kegel exercise class which is 15 minutes.
I'd mentioned earlier
Maybe I could inherit the Task Work data entry form and let the user enter 1 or 2 or 3 pieces worked on, then; convert this information to the Time Spent required by Task Work. But, I'll have to figure out what a single piece means to me time-wise. Like a single 30 minute Yoga class would be entered as 1 Class but would become 0:30 Time Spent or 2 classes would become 1 hour worked (and billed.)
so my project entry would be what the user wants but the retained project data would be what the system needs.
Am I crazy?
DaleEMoore@xxxxxxxxx
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Eric Caudal <eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The UoM is defined in the product used in the relevant user.
You cannot convert PCE to hours if they are not in the same UoM category.
But you can say 1 day = 8 h in same category: OpenERP will take care of the conversion.
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On 12/27/2012 09:32 AM, Dale E. Moore wrote:
I'm sorry Cristian; I've tried several times to understand your two questions and I'm pretty sure I don't understand what you are asking.
You said "Hello, so if its dont configured the worktime in project, hour is the UoM by default ?" I think you were asking "Is Work Task entry default UoM Hour?" I believe the answer is yes, especially since the relevant field is "Time Spent."
You said "And is used to compute the task and project progress ?" I think you were asking "Is 'Time Spent' used to compute task and project progress?" I believe the answer to that is yes, because; task and project progress seem to increase by 'Time Spent' amounts.
Please let me know if I've misunderstood your questions!
You raise a relevant point; how would the current Project entry work by only partially shifting to PCE, Piece or Unit entry. Shouldn't I also compute task and project progress? I think you are right, thanks for the insight! I should look through the entire Project to see how Piece instead of Time would be calculated.
And this raises another question. Where do I retain the calculation 1 Piece = XYZ hours? This sounds more like a manufacturing effect than project management.
I appreciate y'alls insights!
DaleEMoore@xxxxxxxxx
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Ovnicraft <ovnicraft@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 1:33 AM, jeff.wang <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Dale,
Hour is UOM of time, you need use a time UOM for a task, eg, day or week or month or maybe year.
Hello, so if its dont configured the worktime in project, hour is the UoM by default ?
And is used to compute the task and project progress ?
Regards,
PCE is piece, do you want a piece of task ? never.
so try to input day or hour in the UOM for your product. good luck !
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Jeff Wang | jeff@xxxxxxxxx | 18016291663 | 02158980787
@OpenERP_Jeff "As simple as possible, As complex as needed"
Maintainer of Open ERP china community
http://www.openerp-china.org
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From: "Dale E. Moore"<daleemoore@xxxxxxxxx>;
Date: Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:35 AM
To: "openerp-community"<openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
Subject: [Openerp-community] v61 Tasks Work employee product is units?
When I enter the Time Spent for a Task Work and the Analytic
User/Product Rel. is a UoM other than time, like PCE, I get
"Conversion from Product UoM Hour to Default UoM PCE is not possible
as they both belong to different Category!."
Have I missed configuring my installation to allow PCE UoM entry for
Task Work, or is that something that's not allowed?
I look forward to hearing from you,
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