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[Alain Rivet <alain.rivet@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Oups !

Well, at the moment, we have different cases : full refund or partial
refund, linked or unlinked to a specific invoice, already paid (and
cleared ?) or not paid (and uncleared ?), invoice & refound in the same
posting period or not and for this last case, invoice posting period
still open or not, VAT to be paid on different status (In France VAT on
Services becomes only payable when the invoice is paid, but VAT on goods
becomes payable as commonly when invoice is simply posted)

I propose to keep it as simple as possible ! Could we not simply stay on
the common accounting rules ?

Accounting rules request to define the accounting date in accordance of
document creation. A posting date is necessery posted in the
corresponding period (we discussed this on the community days and the
default customizing will be period check on). It's the easyest way to
avoid tax problems

Regarding this proposal, is there a difference at the accounting point
of view for :

partial or full refounding ? NO !
linked or unlinked to a specific invoice ? NO !
Already paid or not ? NO ! It simply possible that we also have to repay the refund amount
Invoice in the same period ? NO !
Invoice in a closed period ? NO !
VAT in specific status ? NO !

Perhaps should I risk a specific comment about this :  It's not the
OpenERP job to solve all the "possible requests" that accountant can
imagine to reduce tax or other fiscal advantages with playing in the
past or other systems !

We not only have to satisfy our customers, we also have to provide a
fair system to garantee that the tax controllers & other country
authorities will not reject OpenERP as accounting system in one or
another country because of some specific adaptations ! It should
probabily be the end of the product... I crossed this kind of problems
many years ago.

Sorry if my approach or if my last comment offend somebody. It's only a
point of view from an old accountant.

Kind regards
Alain

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A refund should not have the same date as the invoice
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550742
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Status in OpenObject Addons Modules: Confirmed

Bug description:
In the current 5.0-bzr, when you get a customer invoice and press the "refund" action button, it seems the refund invoice gets the same date as the initial invoice.
Our users think it should get no date at all, since the date of the original invoice can be in an accounting period than is closed.
Lionel