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[Graeme Gellatly <gdgellatly@xxxxxxxxx>]

Michael,

you blame a little module like anglo saxon for a lot.  it has some issues
but blaming it for openerp stock costing not being multicompany? is nothing
to do with the module, that is in product module.  the one with the
incorrect purchase journals again this error is in stock module partial
picking.  anglo saxon exposes it, but is not the cause.  at its heart all it
does is swap a few accounts around and create a few extra entries.  it has
far fewer problems than you make out, and the problems it does experience
are easily resolved.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Samuel Mukoti <sam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Does anyone know if any work has been done to resolve this in 6.1?  It
> sounds like its not wise to implement the anglo-saxon module until its
> deemed stable.  Problem, this makes OpenERP unusable in this part of the
> world.
>
> Regards
>
> Samuel Mukoti
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Michael <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> I believe Anglo-saxon module is imperative to realtime inventory costing
>> around the world.
>> The problem though is the anglo-saxon module has bugs for standard and for
>> average costing, and does not do the correct journals in several senarios.
>> I have not heard of Prescriptive or Descriptive accounting, but use the
>> nearly globally accepted IFRS and the older GAAP standards.
>> Read this link
>> http://feedback.openerp.com/forums/77459-general-improvements/suggestions/1944011-make-openerp-inventory-valuation-ifrs-compliant
>> Not only does the anglo-saxon module not work in multi-company but neither
>> does it do the correct journals in a single environment.
>> I agree that the field labels are confusing and also mixed up. The
>> anglo-saxon module needs some serious work.
>> Hope this helps.
>> Let me know if you are able to solve the issues with anglo-saxon.
>> kind regards,
>> Michael
>> openrevolution.co.za
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Vadim Chobanu <vadim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, I agree that module is redundant now with v6. And even if it was
>>> still needed the naming (Anglo-Saxon Accounting) is misleading – most modern
>>> books on accounting would refer this as  Prescriptive (France etc)  or
>>> Descriptive accounting (UK etc).****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Prescriptive accounting stock rules: Some countries ( Madagascar for one
>>> i have seen this summer) have in their fiscal legislation that stock
>>> purchases should show as a purchase that is to hit the PNL and then do the
>>> stock variation at the month end or realtime if the system allows) Probably
>>> this is the same for France as this is where most of Madagascar laws are
>>> derived from.****
>>>
>>> Descriptive accounting: No-one is prescribing your COA or through what
>>> account you record you moves as long as your statements represent a true and
>>> fair view. So conventionally in the UK we do record the stock purchase
>>> directly on the balance sheet in the stock account and then when you sell
>>> goods, you will do the CR stock, DR COS****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> For this matter, in OpenERP, a correctly configured product can post the
>>> correct journal entries using both principles – prescriptive or descriptive
>>> and you don’t need the anglo-saxon module for that – it is just introducing
>>> confusion.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
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>>>
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>>> *Subject:* [Openerp-expert-accounting] anglo-saxon stock accounting in
>>> v6****
>>>
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>>>
>>> Hello,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> We are testing the anglo-saxon stock accounting entries in v6 with the
>>> dedicated module.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> First feeling, it is impossible to get correct entries.See below :****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *Flow :*****
>>>
>>> Puchases of 1 CPU1 at 120****
>>>
>>> Sales of 1 CPU1 at 190****
>>>
>>> CPU1 std cost 100****
>>>
>>> *Event*****
>>>
>>> *account_id*****
>>>
>>> *journal_id*****
>>>
>>> *debit*****
>>>
>>> *credit*****
>>>
>>> Sales invoice****
>>>
>>> DEBTORS****
>>>
>>> Sales Journal****
>>>
>>> 190****
>>>
>>> EXPENSES****
>>>
>>> Sales Journal****
>>>
>>> 100****
>>>
>>> ???****
>>>
>>> COGS****
>>>
>>> Sales Journal****
>>>
>>> 100****
>>>
>>> ???****
>>>
>>> SALES****
>>>
>>> Sales Journal****
>>>
>>> 190****
>>>
>>> stock out****
>>>
>>> INVENTORY****
>>>
>>> Stock Journal****
>>>
>>> 100****
>>>
>>> COGS****
>>>
>>> Stock Journal****
>>>
>>> 100****
>>>
>>> Purchases invoice****
>>>
>>> CREDITORS****
>>>
>>> Expenses Journal****
>>>
>>> 130****
>>>
>>> PRICE VARIANCE (Purchase Price – Std Price)****
>>>
>>> Expenses Journal****
>>>
>>> 30****
>>>
>>> GRNI****
>>>
>>> Expenses Journal****
>>>
>>> 100****
>>>
>>> stock in****
>>>
>>> GRNI****
>>>
>>> Stock Journal****
>>>
>>> 120****
>>>
>>> Valued at PO price ! Instead of Std price****
>>>
>>> INVENTORY****
>>>
>>> Stock Journal****
>>>
>>> 120****
>>>
>>> Does anyone knows about this issue ?****
>>>
>>> - Stock in entry is valuated at PO price....which is wrong ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> - I do not understand what the module anglo saxon accounting modify the sales invoices entry****
>>>
>>> - There is a name mix-up in the account properties : stock variation is in fact the inventory and stock is teh stock valuation...****
>>>
>>> Many thanks for you help****
>>>
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