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[Juan Cristobal Lopez Arrieta <juancristobal@xxxxxxxxx>]

IMHO, normally I would set a 'type' of payroll run (regular, re-processing,
bonus, etc...).
This type will declare if dates can be overlapped or not.


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Eric Caudal <eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  Shouldnot we have a concept of payslip type and recurrence linked to
> payslip batch?
> Similarly, a "HR journal", a similar concept as journal in accounting
> would allow to post batches in specific journal with conditions. You could
> have "Regular pay day journal" and "Bonus journal" and could control the
> payslip generation at journal level at setup.
> When payslip is generated, you check journal configuration and setup your
> controls.
> I would be interested in what other software do (any HR pro in the
> audience?)
>
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> On 11/27/2012 02:09 AM, Nhomar Hernández wrote:
>
>
>
> 2012/11/26 Juan Cristobal Lopez Arrieta <juancristobal@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Several cases that I have seen:
>> You have to separates payroll runs: one for the regular ones and the
>> other for what we call 'aguinaldo'  or 13erd Anual Salary, for instance.
>> Both have the same payroll date.
>> Another more complex situation:
>> Due to some changes in regulations you have may to process  twice the
>> same period, In this case your payroll will be the differences.
>> There are some other cases, where the run date is a legal matter.
>
>  HEllo ..
>
>  I think you are confused,
>
>  Avoid overlaping is the same period for the same  employee and same pays
> lip....
>
>  Objective is not pay twice and compute twice the same payslip///
>
>  If you have several ways of pay you will be able to have them.
>
>  BUt for me, it doesn't make sense, that i compude wekly salary for
> friday twice?
>
>  Don't you?>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Nhomar Hernández <nhomar@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  2012/11/26 Juan Cristobal Lopez Arrieta <juancristobal@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> I think dates can be duplicated regarding what type of payroll run you
>>>> are dealing with.
>>>> Not for a regular one, but in some cases it may be duplicated. It will
>>>> depend, IMHO, on a 'payroll type'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>  Can you share an Example Case please, in what real case you will need
>>> "confirm"  twice a payroll dude?>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Amit Parik (OpenERP) <amp@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hello Nhomar,
>>>>>
>>>>> Fully agreed!!! We don't have to allow payslip overlapping  with same
>>>>> period(date)
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a nice explanation you have provided that we have to allow
>>>>> overlapping for refund and cancelled payslip.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have already implemented this type of functionality on timesheet.
>>>>>
>>>>> But here we have to also consider some extra point as you given for
>>>>> refund and cancelled payslip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's take more suggestion about it form community and Accounting
>>>>> Experts then we will comes upon a conclusion about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I am subscribe this to Accounting experts and take experts 's
>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> @ Accounting Experts: Would you please share your 'Opinion' about this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the good suggestion  and also more suggestions are most
>>>>> welcomed!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Changed in: openobject-addons
>>>>>        Status: New => Opinion
>>>>>
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>>>>>  Accounting Experts, which is subscribed to the bug report.
>>>>>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1083044
>>>>>
>>>>> Title:
>>>>>   [trunk] hr_payroll allow overlapping of pays lip in dates.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Status in OpenERP Addons (modules):
>>>>>   Opinion
>>>>>
>>>>> Bug description:
>>>>>   Hello.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Try to compute twice a pays lip.
>>>>>   You can see how dates can be overlaped.
>>>>>
>>>>>   See the picture:
>>>>>
>>>>>   http://www.diigo.com/item/image/2vq6y/v68c
>>>>>
>>>>>   Basically, i have 2 questions here:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1.- We can allow compute 100 times pays lip IMHO it is necesary to
>>>>> debug, and compare.
>>>>>   2..- We can NOT allow the overlapping in dates, because IMHO it
>>>>> represent a big oportunity to make big mistakes to end users.
>>>>>   Imagine a payroll of 20 employees, is almost impossible be sure all
>>>>> dates are good!!! or not?
>>>>>
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