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[Gustavo Adrian Marino <gamarino@xxxxxxxxx>]

Olivier:
Installed versions:
- server: 4004
- addons: 6432
- openerp-web: 2105
- client: 2040
Still the same behaviour

El 3 de febrero de 2012 06:45, Olivier Dony (OpenERP) <
925361@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> On 02/02/2012 04:59 PM, Gustavo Adrian Marino wrote:
> > In order to be accurate, I have checked in this scenario:
> > - OpenERP 6.1 RC1,
> > - Client machine timezone: America, Buenos Aires, GMT-3
> > - Using WEB client
>
> Do you mean 6.1 RC1 or the latest 6.1 trunk (*after* RC1)?
> If you're still using RC1 you're certainly seeing bug 922065, which was
> causing date fields to be converted upon display in the web client when
> they should really never be (conversion is for datetime fields only, as
> already discussed at length).
> Please upgrade the web client to any version later than rev.2067.
>
>
> > I have created a new sales order.
> > Sales order date: Feb 16, 2012
> > I have saved the order in draft state (just with the new date and a
> > customer)
> > In database, field date_order from sale_order => "2012-02-16" (note that
> > there is no HH:MM:SS)
> > I read again the newly created order => shown date: Feb 15, 2012
>
> That would typically be a consequence of bug 922065 with a -3:00 TZ
> offset.
>
>
> > In any case, the most important concept to implement is the fact that
> dates
> > are timezone independant.
>
> This is already the case, at least after rev. 2067.
>
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> Title:
>  [6.1] date values that are initialized as 'defaults' may appear as
>  "off by one day" in some countries depending on the time
>
> Status in OpenERP Server:
>  Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
>  This issue was initially discussed on bug 918257. It always existed,
>  but was less apparent when addons and framework code were using a
>  timezone that was closer to the user's timezone.
>
>  As of 6.1 all addons and framework code is supposed to work
>  exclusively with UTC datetime values (as discussed on comment #4 of
>  bug 918257), and this means the problem will occur more often.
>
>  Basically, our main issue is that pure date value (without time) can
>  never be converted to different timezones, because depending on the
>  time they were recorded, the date may still be yesterday in some parts
>  of the world, or already tomorrow. Therefore OpenERP clients (Web &
>  GTK) cannot (and should not) perform date conversions when displaying
>  pure date fields.
>
>  Let me try to explain...
>
>  For datetime values, the conversion to the local timezone is easy to do.
> Let's say addons code uses the current time to set the value for a datetime
> field in a new record: 2012-02-02 08:56:00 AM (UTC+00:00).
>  The value is converted when it is displayed by the client and will
> unambiguously be 2012-02-02 09:56:00 PM in Auckland where the timezone
> offset is +13:00 at that time.
>
>  However when addons code works with dates (without time) to initialize a
> new record, this is what is stored in the database: 2012-02-02 (UTC+00:00).
> When that value is displayed to the user, no conversion of timezone can
> occur because the client has no idea at what time the date was in fact
> recorded!
>  2012-02-02 is correct for an Auckland-based user if the date is recorded
> before 11:00 AM UTC, but if recorded at 1:00PM it should be 2012-02-03,
> because Auckland has just passed midnight already. Web/GTK client cannot
> perform this conversion at all, and must display pure dates as stored in
> the database.
>
>  Now, I see a few reasonable options to fix this:
>
>  1. We could convert most date fields to be truly datetime fields in the
> database, and simply set the "display widget" to be a date widget, e.g.
>        <field name="order_date" widget="date"/>
>  The field would behave like it does currently, except that the client
> would have enough information to properly display the local date, as it
> would know at what time the date was recorded.
>
>  2. Alternatively we could provide a helper function in the framework to
> easily let addons code grab the current date value *as the client would see
> it*. Instead of initializing default values as we do now, i.e.:
>   _defaults = {
>     # Following gives 2012-02-02 even at 1:00 PM UTC
>     'order_date': lambda *a: time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d')
>   }
>  we would therefore do it using the user's timezone provided in the
> context, i.e something like this:
>   _defaults = {
>     # For users in Auckland the following would give 2012-02-02 until
>     # 11:00 AM UTC, and properly return 2012-02-03 afterwards
>     'order_date': lambda cr,uid,ctx:self._current_user_date(cr,uid,ctx)
>   }
>
>  I tend to favor the second option, which seems simpler and cleaner to me.
> That would basically mean we break the rule of using only UTC date and time
> values in addons, and consider that pure date values are timezone agnostic
> (which is really the case: a date without a time cannot be properly
> converted to another timezone, ever), or more exactly, that they are only
> valid in the timezone of the user who created that record.
>  Date computation would continue to work fine: adding/subtracting days
> would works as expected.
>
>  The main limitation with option 2 is that dates cannot would not be
>  displayed differently depending on the user's timezone. For
>  distributed teams, an invoice created by a user in Auckland on
>  '2012-02-03' would appear to be created 'tomorrow' for her colleague
>  in New York where the date is still '2012-02-02'. I think this is fine
>  and actually expected, we don't want the invoice to be 'floating'
>  between one day and the next.
>
>  Any opinions on this?
>
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Title:
  [6.1] date values that are initialized as 'defaults' may appear as
  "off by one day" in some countries depending on the time

Status in OpenERP Server:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  This issue was initially discussed on bug 918257. It always existed,
  but was less apparent when addons and framework code were using a
  timezone that was closer to the user's timezone.

  As of 6.1 all addons and framework code is supposed to work
  exclusively with UTC datetime values (as discussed on comment #4 of
  bug 918257), and this means the problem will occur more often.

  Basically, our main issue is that pure date value (without time) can
  never be converted to different timezones, because depending on the
  time they were recorded, the date may still be yesterday in some parts
  of the world, or already tomorrow. Therefore OpenERP clients (Web &
  GTK) cannot (and should not) perform date conversions when displaying
  pure date fields.

  Let me try to explain...

  For datetime values, the conversion to the local timezone is easy to do. Let's say addons code uses the current time to set the value for a datetime field in a new record: 2012-02-02 08:56:00 AM (UTC+00:00).
  The value is converted when it is displayed by the client and will unambiguously be 2012-02-02 09:56:00 PM in Auckland where the timezone offset is +13:00 at that time.

  However when addons code works with dates (without time) to initialize a new record, this is what is stored in the database: 2012-02-02 (UTC+00:00). When that value is displayed to the user, no conversion of timezone can occur because the client has no idea at what time the date was in fact recorded!
  2012-02-02 is correct for an Auckland-based user if the date is recorded before 11:00 AM UTC, but if recorded at 1:00PM it should be 2012-02-03, because Auckland has just passed midnight already. Web/GTK client cannot perform this conversion at all, and must display pure dates as stored in the database.

  Now, I see a few reasonable options to fix this:

  1. We could convert most date fields to be truly datetime fields in the database, and simply set the "display widget" to be a date widget, e.g. 
        <field name="order_date" widget="date"/>
  The field would behave like it does currently, except that the client would have enough information to properly display the local date, as it would know at what time the date was recorded. 

  2. Alternatively we could provide a helper function in the framework to easily let addons code grab the current date value *as the client would see it*. Instead of initializing default values as we do now, i.e.:
   _defaults = {
     # Following gives 2012-02-02 even at 1:00 PM UTC
     'order_date': lambda *a: time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d') 
   }
  we would therefore do it using the user's timezone provided in the context, i.e something like this:
   _defaults = {
     # For users in Auckland the following would give 2012-02-02 until
     # 11:00 AM UTC, and properly return 2012-02-03 afterwards
     'order_date': lambda cr,uid,ctx:self._current_user_date(cr,uid,ctx)
   }

  I tend to favor the second option, which seems simpler and cleaner to me. That would basically mean we break the rule of using only UTC date and time values in addons, and consider that pure date values are timezone agnostic (which is really the case: a date without a time cannot be properly converted to another timezone, ever), or more exactly, that they are only valid in the timezone of the user who created that record.
  Date computation would continue to work fine: adding/subtracting days would works as expected.

  The main limitation with option 2 is that dates cannot would not be
  displayed differently depending on the user's timezone. For
  distributed teams, an invoice created by a user in Auckland on
  '2012-02-03' would appear to be created 'tomorrow' for her colleague
  in New York where the date is still '2012-02-02'. I think this is fine
  and actually expected, we don't want the invoice to be 'floating'
  between one day and the next.

  Any opinions on this?

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