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[Bug 1151947] Re: Link several addresses on individual partners (not companies)
** Description changed:
Hello,
Thanks to the Fabien's Q&A on help.openerp.com regarding how to have
several addresses on partners, I think the situation is clear enough and well
explained for companies [0].
However, I still can't find a good way to link several addresses on
individual customers, not companies, in a B2C context. I posted a
question and got no response [1].
Here is a use case, I'll use it in my hypothesis below.
Mr Foo lives at Bar Street 1.
He works at Baz Avenue 150 and usually he wants to receive goods at
work.
I see 4 hypothesis for that in OpenERP 7:
1. I create 2 distinct partners:
* Mr Leo Foo at Bar Street 1
* Mr Leo Foo at Baz Avenue 150
They haven't any links between them.
Problems:
* From a usability point of view, this would be a mess, especially if I have
homonyms. I would never be sure what is the main address of Mr Foo and
would have difficulties to find his good addresses (even if I set Baz
Avenue 150 as 'delivery' address, I would also the 'delivery'
addresses of his homonym Mr Foo in the searches).
* I would have wrong accounting entries, sometimes on Mr Foo at Bar
Street, sometimes on Mr Foo at Baz Avenue
Conclusion:
It seems to me that this solution is not applicable due to accounting
issues.
2. I put the main address of Mr Foo as `is_company`:
* Mr Leo Foo at Bar Street 1 is the main record, considered as
`is_company`.
* Mr Leo Foo at Baz Avenue 150 is a contact of type 'delivery' linked
to the Mr Foo company record.
We would not have accounting issues, because this is already handled for
companies. The searches and usability would be improved over solution 1.
Problems:
* Mr Foo is not a company!
* This would be totally misleading
* If any existing or future addons use the field `is_company` to apply
some logic which should only be applied for companies, we would be
bloody damned with individuals considered as companies
Conclusion:
It seems to me that this would be a good solution, but with a renaming
of the field `is_company` to something more general (and eventually keep
a field `is_company` to only keep this information). => too late for v7?
3. This use case is not supported by OpenERP 7 and has to be coded in a
community addon.
Problems:
* We have to be very sure that this problem will be handled
in only one way. If a part of the community manages it in one way and an
other part in another way, we'll start to see incompatibility between
addons (and OpenERP risks issues for migrations too).
Conclusion:
It would be very surprising because this use case is very basic for B2C.
I think that a so 'low level' part of the datamodel should be defined by
OpenERP to avoid to compromise higher level addons. A change on theses
base models can have an impact on all the other addons (see
base_contact). But let's admit this hypothesis is the good one.
I'm alright to create a community addon to handle this use case (by the
way, this is a prerequisite to synchronize openerp with magento). But I
expect a strong guidance from OpenERP, I need to know how this link
should be done (add an `is_individual` field like the `is_company`
field? Just add the `parent_id` field accessible everytime?) to ensure
that the community addon's solution won't go against the current with
- you.
+ OpenERP devs.
4. I just missed the way to do that
Conclusion:
The usability on this point should be improved because no one has ever
answered to my question :-)
+
+ What is the solution advocated by OpenERP and why?
Thanks
+
+
Guewen
+
[0] http://help.openerp.com/question/4341/on-v61-one-partner-could-have-several-addresses-invoicing-delivery-is-this-still-possible-in-v7/
[1] http://help.openerp.com/question/135/how-do-i-attach-different-addresses-on-a-individual-customer/
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1151947
Title:
Link several addresses on individual partners (not companies)
Status in OpenERP Server:
New
Bug description:
Hello,
Thanks to the Fabien's Q&A on help.openerp.com regarding how to have
several addresses on partners, I think the situation is clear enough and well
explained for companies [0].
However, I still can't find a good way to link several addresses on
individual customers, not companies, in a B2C context. I posted a
question and got no response [1].
Here is a use case, I'll use it in my hypothesis below.
Mr Foo lives at Bar Street 1.
He works at Baz Avenue 150 and usually he wants to receive goods at
work.
I see 4 hypothesis for that in OpenERP 7:
1. I create 2 distinct partners:
* Mr Leo Foo at Bar Street 1
* Mr Leo Foo at Baz Avenue 150
They haven't any links between them.
Problems:
* From a usability point of view, this would be a mess, especially if I have
homonyms. I would never be sure what is the main address of Mr Foo and
would have difficulties to find his good addresses (even if I set Baz
Avenue 150 as 'delivery' address, I would also the 'delivery'
addresses of his homonym Mr Foo in the searches).
* I would have wrong accounting entries, sometimes on Mr Foo at Bar
Street, sometimes on Mr Foo at Baz Avenue
Conclusion:
It seems to me that this solution is not applicable due to accounting
issues.
2. I put the main address of Mr Foo as `is_company`:
* Mr Leo Foo at Bar Street 1 is the main record, considered as
`is_company`.
* Mr Leo Foo at Baz Avenue 150 is a contact of type 'delivery' linked
to the Mr Foo company record.
We would not have accounting issues, because this is already handled for
companies. The searches and usability would be improved over solution 1.
Problems:
* Mr Foo is not a company!
* This would be totally misleading
* If any existing or future addons use the field `is_company` to apply
some logic which should only be applied for companies, we would be
bloody damned with individuals considered as companies
Conclusion:
It seems to me that this would be a good solution, but with a renaming
of the field `is_company` to something more general (and eventually keep
a field `is_company` to only keep this information). => too late for v7?
3. This use case is not supported by OpenERP 7 and has to be coded in a
community addon.
Problems:
* We have to be very sure that this problem will be handled
in only one way. If a part of the community manages it in one way and an
other part in another way, we'll start to see incompatibility between
addons (and OpenERP risks issues for migrations too).
Conclusion:
It would be very surprising because this use case is very basic for B2C.
I think that a so 'low level' part of the datamodel should be defined by
OpenERP to avoid to compromise higher level addons. A change on theses
base models can have an impact on all the other addons (see
base_contact). But let's admit this hypothesis is the good one.
I'm alright to create a community addon to handle this use case (by the
way, this is a prerequisite to synchronize openerp with magento). But I
expect a strong guidance from OpenERP, I need to know how this link
should be done (add an `is_individual` field like the `is_company`
field? Just add the `parent_id` field accessible everytime?) to ensure
that the community addon's solution won't go against the current with
OpenERP devs.
4. I just missed the way to do that
Conclusion:
The usability on this point should be improved because no one has ever
answered to my question :-)
What is the solution advocated by OpenERP and why?
Thanks
Guewen
[0] http://help.openerp.com/question/4341/on-v61-one-partner-could-have-several-addresses-invoicing-delivery-is-this-still-possible-in-v7/
[1] http://help.openerp.com/question/135/how-do-i-attach-different-addresses-on-a-individual-customer/
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