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[Monty Taylor <mordred@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 02/06/2012 10:37 AM, Jesse Andrews wrote:
> I think having a session on devstack at the summit would be valuable.

++

> I'm still torn on it being python vs. bash because I see
> non-developers using it all the time because they can take snippets of
> the shell script and use it.


I'm similarly torn. One of the things Jesse and I have spoke of several
times is in making sure that we don't let the scope of devstack grow to
the point where we re-invent chef or puppet or juju. It's not really
intended as a tool for doing "real" deployments - it's intended to make
developer's lives easier, and to serve as an easy to follow living
document of what a base working openstack installation looks like.

My concern is that if we go and get all software developer on it and
make it python and "right" and "better" - that it will cease to be an
easy to follow annotated installation and start to become a
custom-written multi-purpose deployment software.

Monty

> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Joshua Harlow <harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Over the weekend I was thinking (I know a first, haha).
>>
>> I was wondering if the community could elevate devstack to a "official"
>> openstack project, instead of being a "unofficial project". Since it seems
>> like pretty much every developer (and even CI) is either depending on the
>> shell script or the python script, so the unofficial wording seems
>> incorrect. Hopefully we can have that happen and have this "official"
>> project focus on just a developer setup script (imho the python version,
>> since it fits in with the whole python model every other component is using
>> and allows for features the shell script is not doing, multi-distro support,
>> starting, stopping, uninstalling, object oriented design, to name a few....)
>> of the openstack components (and not dive into the scripts that are showing
>> up), ie leave that to 3rd party websites.
>>
>> What does everyone think?
>>
>> Maybe this can happen after essex?
>>
>> -Josh
>>
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