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Re: Remove Zones code - FFE

 

+1 on "shards"

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Sandy Walsh <sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> +1 on shards / partitions / anything to avoid the naming confusion with
> availability zones.
>
> (congrats on the branch! Looking forward to trying it!)
> ________________________________________
> From: openstack-bounces+sandy.walsh=rackspace.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[openstack-bounces+sandy.walsh=
> rackspace.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Chris Behrens [
> cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:50 PM
> To: Leandro Reox
> Cc: openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Chris Behrens
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE
>
> Sorry, I'm late.  Really getting down to the wire here. :)
>
> I've thrown up a version here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4062
>
> I've not functionally tested it yet, but there's really good test coverage
> for the zones service itself.   I also have added a test_compute_zones
> which tests that all of the compute tests pass while using the new
> ComputeZonesAPI class.
>
> There's a couple bugs I note in the review and then I think I'm missing
> pushing some instance updates to the top in libvirt code.  And missing an
> update for instance deletes in the compute manager.  Going to hit those up
> today and finish this off.
>
> One other comment:  It's been suggested we not call this stuff 'Zones'
> anymore.  It gets confused with availability zones and so forth.  Since
> this is really a way to shard nova, it has been suggested to call this
> 'Shards'. :)   Not sure I dig that name completely, although it makes
> sense.  Thoughts?
>
> - Chris
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Leandro Reox wrote:
>
> > Awesome Chrisssss !!!
> >
> > Lean
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Alejandro Comisario <
> alejandro.comisario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Niceee !!
> >
> > Alejandro.
> >
> > On 02/09/2012 02:02 PM, Chris Behrens wrote:
> >> I should be pushing something up by end of day...  Even if it's not
> granted an FFE, I'll have a need to keep my branch updated and working, so
> I should at least always have a branch pushed up to a github account
> somewhere until F1 opens up.  So, I guess worst case... there'll be a
> branch somewhere for you to play with. :)
> >>
> >> - Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 8, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Tom Fifield wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Just raising another deployment waiting on this new Zone
> implementation - we currently have 2000 cores sitting idle in another
> datacentre that we can use "better" if this is done.
> >>>
> >>> How can we help? ;)
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Tom
> >>>
> >>> On 02/08/2012 07:30 PM, Ziad Sawalha wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> We were working on providing the necessary functionality in Keystone
> but
> >>>> stopped when we heard of the alternative solution. We could resume the
> >>>> conversation about what is needed on the Keystone side and implement
> if
> >>>> needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Z
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Sandy Walsh <
> >>>> sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> <mailto:sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> >
> >>>> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:49:58 +0000
> >>>> To: Joshua McKenty <
> >>>> joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> <mailto:joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> >, Vishvananda Ishaya
> >>>> <
> >>>> vishvananda@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:vishvananda@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> >
> >>>> Cc: "
> >>>> openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> <mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <
> openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> <mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> >
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE
> >>>>
> >>>> Understood, timing is everything. I'll let Chris talk about expected
> >>>> timing for the replacement. From a deployers side, nothing would
> really
> >>>> change, just some configuration options ... but a replacement should
> be
> >>>> available.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure we could get it working pretty easily. The Keystone
> integration
> >>>> was the biggest pita.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can keep this branch fresh with trunk for when we're ready to pull
> the
> >>>> trigger.
> >>>>
> >>>> -S
> >>>>
> >>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> *From:* Joshua McKenty [
> >>>> joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> <mailto:joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> ]
> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:45 PM
> >>>> *To:* Vishvananda Ishaya
> >>>> *Cc:* Sandy Walsh;
> >>>> openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> <mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 to Vish's points. I know there are some folks coming online in the
> >>>> Folsom timeline that can help out with the new stuff, but this feels a
> >>>> bit like going backwards.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Joshua McKenty, CEO
> >>>> Piston Cloud Computing, Inc.
> >>>> w: (650) 24-CLOUD
> >>>> m: (650) 283-6846
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.pistoncloud.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Oh, Westley, we'll never survive!"
> >>>> "Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has."
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I am all for pulling this out, but I'm a bit concerned with the fact
> >>>>> that we have nothing to replace it with. There are some groups still
> >>>>> trying to use it. MercadoLibre is trying to use it for example. I
> know
> >>>>> you guys are trying to replace this with something better, but it
> >>>>> would be nice not to break people for 7+ months
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I guess I have some questions:
> >>>>> 1.a) is the current implementation completely broken?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1.b) if yes, is it fixable
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) If we do remove this, what can we tell people that need something
> >>>>> like zones between now and the Folsom release?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vish
> >>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Sandy Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> As part of the new (and optional) Zones code coming down the pipe,
> >>>>>> part of this is to remove the old Zones implementation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> More info in the merge prop:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://review.openstack.org/#change,3629
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, can I? can I? Huh?
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