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Re: Remove Zones code - FFE
agreed..
-1 on shard, +1 on cluster
Yun
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Martin Paulo <martin.paulo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Please not 'shards'
> Sharding as a concept is so intertwined with databases IMHO that it
> will serve to confuse even more. Why not 'cluster'?
>
> Martin
>
> On 13 February 2012 09:50, Chris Behrens <cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Sorry, I'm late. Really getting down to the wire here. :)
>>
>> I've thrown up a version here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4062
>>
>> I've not functionally tested it yet, but there's really good test coverage for the zones service itself. I also have added a test_compute_zones which tests that all of the compute tests pass while using the new ComputeZonesAPI class.
>>
>> There's a couple bugs I note in the review and then I think I'm missing pushing some instance updates to the top in libvirt code. And missing an update for instance deletes in the compute manager. Going to hit those up today and finish this off.
>>
>> One other comment: It's been suggested we not call this stuff 'Zones' anymore. It gets confused with availability zones and so forth. Since this is really a way to shard nova, it has been suggested to call this 'Shards'. :) Not sure I dig that name completely, although it makes sense. Thoughts?
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Leandro Reox wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome Chrisssss !!!
>>>
>>> Lean
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Alejandro Comisario <alejandro.comisario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Niceee !!
>>>
>>> Alejandro.
>>>
>>> On 02/09/2012 02:02 PM, Chris Behrens wrote:
>>>> I should be pushing something up by end of day... Even if it's not granted an FFE, I'll have a need to keep my branch updated and working, so I should at least always have a branch pushed up to a github account somewhere until F1 opens up. So, I guess worst case... there'll be a branch somewhere for you to play with. :)
>>>>
>>>> - Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just raising another deployment waiting on this new Zone implementation - we currently have 2000 cores sitting idle in another datacentre that we can use "better" if this is done.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can we help? ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/08/2012 07:30 PM, Ziad Sawalha wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We were working on providing the necessary functionality in Keystone but
>>>>>> stopped when we heard of the alternative solution. We could resume the
>>>>>> conversation about what is needed on the Keystone side and implement if
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Z
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Sandy Walsh <
>>>>>> sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:49:58 +0000
>>>>>> To: Joshua McKenty <
>>>>>> joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> >, Vishvananda Ishaya
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> vishvananda@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:vishvananda@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Cc: "
>>>>>> openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Understood, timing is everything. I'll let Chris talk about expected
>>>>>> timing for the replacement. From a deployers side, nothing would really
>>>>>> change, just some configuration options ... but a replacement should be
>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure we could get it working pretty easily. The Keystone integration
>>>>>> was the biggest pita.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can keep this branch fresh with trunk for when we're ready to pull the
>>>>>> trigger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -S
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Joshua McKenty [
>>>>>> joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> ]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:45 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Vishvananda Ishaya
>>>>>> *Cc:* Sandy Walsh;
>>>>>> openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 to Vish's points. I know there are some folks coming online in the
>>>>>> Folsom timeline that can help out with the new stuff, but this feels a
>>>>>> bit like going backwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Joshua McKenty, CEO
>>>>>> Piston Cloud Computing, Inc.
>>>>>> w: (650) 24-CLOUD
>>>>>> m: (650) 283-6846
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.pistoncloud.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Oh, Westley, we'll never survive!"
>>>>>> "Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am all for pulling this out, but I'm a bit concerned with the fact
>>>>>>> that we have nothing to replace it with. There are some groups still
>>>>>>> trying to use it. MercadoLibre is trying to use it for example. I know
>>>>>>> you guys are trying to replace this with something better, but it
>>>>>>> would be nice not to break people for 7+ months
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I guess I have some questions:
>>>>>>> 1.a) is the current implementation completely broken?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.b) if yes, is it fixable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) If we do remove this, what can we tell people that need something
>>>>>>> like zones between now and the Folsom release?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vish
>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Sandy Walsh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As part of the new (and optional) Zones code coming down the pipe,
>>>>>>>> part of this is to remove the old Zones implementation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More info in the merge prop:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://review.openstack.org/#change,3629
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, can I? can I? Huh?
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