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Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core


I’m not a core member anymore, but I completely agree with John. The
company affiliation should not be the reason to deny somebody’s promotion
to the core team.

If core members from the particular company will try to influence the
project development in the wrong way – it will be a completely different



*From:* Openstack [mailto:openstack-bounces+vladimir=
zadarastorage.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *John Griffith
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:36 AM
*To:* Avishay Traeger
*Cc:* OpenStack Development Mailing List; Openstack (
openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
*Subject:* Re: [Openstack] [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie
Leahy to join cinder-core

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Avishay Traeger <AVISHAY@xxxxxxxxxx>


I'm sorry to do that, and it really has nothing to do with Ollie or his
work (which I appreciate very much).  The main reason is that right now
Cinder core has 8 members:
1. Avishay Traeger (IBM)
2. Duncan Thomas (HP)
3. Eric Harney (RedHat)
4. Huang Zhiteng (Intel)
5. John Griffith (SolidFire)
6. Josh Durgin (Inktank)
7. Mike Perez (DreamHost)
8. Walt Boring (HP)

Adding another core team member from HP means that 1/3 of the core team is

from HP.  I believe that we should strive to have the core team be as
diverse as possible, with as many companies as possible represented (big
and small alike).  I think that's one of the keys to keeping a project
healthy and on the right track (nothing against HP - I would say the same
for IBM or any other company).  Further, we appointed two core members
fairly recently (Walt and Eric), and I don't feel that we have a shortage
at this time.

Again, nothing personal against Ollie, Duncan, HP, or anyone else.


From:   Duncan Thomas <duncan.thomas@xxxxxxxxx>
To:     "Openstack (openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
            <openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, OpenStack Development Mailing
            List <openstack-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:   07/17/2013 06:18 PM
Subject:        [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join

Hi Everybody

I'd like to propose Ollie Leahy for cinder core. He has been doing
plenty of reviews and bug fixes, provided useful and tasteful negative
reviews (something often of far higher value than a +1) and has joined
in various design discussions.


Duncan Thomas
Cinder Core, HP Cloud Services


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Just to point out a few things here, first off there is no guideline that
states a company affiliation should have anything to do with the decision
on voting somebody as core.  I have ABSOLUTELY NO concern about
representation of company affiliation what so ever.

Quite frankly I wouldn't mind if there were 20 core members from HP, if
they're all actively engaged and participating then that's great.  I don't
think there has been ANY incidence of folks exerting inappropriate
influence based on their affiliated interest, and if there ever was I think
it would be easy to identify and address.

As far as "don't need more" I don't agree with that either, if there are
folks contributing and doing the work then there's no reason not to add
them.  Cinder IMO does NOT have an excess of reviewers by a very very long

The criteria here should be review consistency and quality as well as
knowledge of the project, nothing more nothing less.  If there's an
objection to the individuals participation or contribution that's fine, but
company affiliation should have no bearing.