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[Petko Ditchev <pditchev@xxxxxxxxx>]

Let me explain to you why in the real world it's wrong to push that 
topic , while in theory you might be somewhat right . You want to push 
the Windows behaviour , that a lot of people are used to - to Nautilus . 
Valid point in theory , it would be so nice to have the option to make 
renaming behave exactly as you like . Though - what happens in practice 
- there are tens of little things no less important than this one , that 
people want , and not every one of them can be put in settings , or 
implemented just because a lot of people are used to it . The developers 
of an app want it to be perfectly thought out , and with some legacy 
support , but the second one is not a priority (more on that with my 
third point) .
 Secondly - some of us really don't like the old behaviour , for good 
reasons . It took some getting used to , but I'm very happy to use F2 , 
and not worry about getting into rename by accident when I'm trying to 
do some kind of selection.
Thirdly - we have to ,at some point , get rid of the old and less 
thought out solutions , no matter how many people have gotten used to 
them . You say it's a big thing , and so many users are used to it - 
well if that's a big thing , and we don't want to change it , then we 
should forget about any kind of progress on a more fundamental level.
Fourthly - the problem at hand is too small and too 
unclear/controversial in terms of a solution , so that developers would 
take it seriously and modify Nautilus to resolve it .

I'm in the discussion only to clarify some of this stuff , because I 
personally took my sweet time understanding it , when I got in to the 
Ubuntu ecosystem about an year ago . You may think you've got a very 
good solution , but really assessing it and getting it through to 
implementation , requires taking into account some real-world and people 
factors .

On 9.05.2013 09:17, Martian wrote:
> *"I understand some people rename files like that, but..."*
>
> Apperantly you do not. It is not convenient what you aren't used to,
> period. It does not matter at all what reasoning you come up with.