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[Stefan Schwarzburg <stefan.schwarzburg@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi David,

I think it would be a good idea to add a new "series" to the qreator
project for the ubuntu-ui-toolkit based development. Both code bases will
be completely separated / different anyway.

I could register the new series, if that is ok for you. I would propose the
name "reboot" (like quickly did) or "precious" (since you wanted a qreator
to rule them all...) or "app" (boring, but fitting...)
Wha do you think?

Cheers,
Stefan


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Stefan Schwarzburg <
stefan.schwarzburg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, David Planella <david.planella@xxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> During the ramp up to the announcement of Ubuntu on mobile devices on
>> the 2nd of January and yesterday's announcement of the source code being
>> published in 6 days, I've been thinking more about the future of Qreator.
>>
>> I'd like Qreator to become the application everyone uses to create codes
>> on Ubuntu -eventually to scan them, but that's a separate story.
>
>
> Me too :-)
>
>
>> And
>> with that I mean on all devices and form factors Ubuntu will soon run
>> on. I firmly believe that to achieve that goal the Ubuntu SDK is the
>> only way to go. In practical terms that is migrating to QML.
>>
>>
> Agreed.
>
>
>> QML has impressed me very much. I was skeptical on what one could do
>> with a declarative language, and in my experience was: a lot. I was
>> expecting I'd have to resort to C++ at some point, which I really wanted
>> to avoid (I'm done with compiling, let alone cross-compiling), and I was
>> very surprised to find out how naturally small JavaScript snippets fit
>> into QML where some more complex logic is needed.
>>
>>
> I have done some work on a different app with QML, to learn more about it.
> I am impressed as well, but I still have to find good solutions for a lot
> of problems (e.g. file I/O, dbus integration, ...) .
> But I'm sharing your view, QML is definitely good enough and with the
> Ubuntu toolkit, my major objection (no widgets) has gone as well.
>
> I also looked at PySide. Python is, and will continue to be, my
>> favourite programming language, and I had dearly wanted to keep using it
>> for Qreator. However, after having been on the #pyside channel for a
>> while and having been reading the mailing list archives, I concluded
>> that the project is dead. It has not yet migrated to Qt 5 (which means
>> it does not work with the Ubuntu SDK), and there is no initiative for a
>> roadmap at all. The current discussions seem to be about rewriting the
>> bindings generator, as it's perceived to be a major barrier for getting
>> new contributors to the project.
>>
>>
> Yes, PySide is dead, I had seen that as well. PyQt however seems still
> alive...
>
>
>> All in all, with the purpose of learning about the Ubuntu SDK and
>> evaluating it for Qreator, I created a proof-of-concept version of
>> Qreator using QML and the Ubuntu SDK [1].
>>
>
> That looks really awesome! Great work!
> I'm very much looking forward to continuing with that version.
>
>
>>
>> Once checked out, provided that the SDK is installed [2], it can simply
>> be executed on an Ubuntu desktop by running: `qmlscene main.qml`
>>
>> Caveats:
>> - The app's header is a workaround until the SDK itself implements it.
>>   That code will be removed at some point soon.
>> - The WiFi page is just a proof-of-concept, it currently only changes
>>   the code according to the text, it's not a valid WiFi wireless code
>> - System integration is not quite there yet, so until there are Qt
>>   bindings for the main Ubuntu and GObject APIs, we'll have to think
>>   about workarounds or thin wrappers to talk to those APIs.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
> Great work! Let's do this :-)
> I do have a question though: have you ever looked into CoffeeScript? [1]
> I have started to use it for my other ubuntu app and I think it might be
> good. Feels at least a little like Python (if used in the right way...)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan
>
> [1]  http://coffeescript.org/
>
>  Cheers,
>> David.
>>
>> [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/qreator/qreator-qml
>> [2] http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile
>>
>>
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