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[David Planella <david.planella@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Al 23/03/13 11:37, En/na Stefan Schwarzburg ha escrit:
> Hi David,
> 
> I think it would be a good idea to add a new "series" to the qreator
> project for the ubuntu-ui-toolkit based development. Both code bases
> will be completely separated / different anyway.
> 
> I could register the new series, if that is ok for you. I would propose
> the name "reboot" (like quickly did) or "precious" (since you wanted a
> qreator to rule them all...) or "app" (boring, but fitting...)
> Wha do you think?
> 

Sorry, just came back from a period of "real life kicks in" and I'm
catching up on Qreator.

A new series sounds good to me. What about "touch"?

Cheers,
David.

> Cheers,
> Stefan
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Stefan Schwarzburg
> <stefan.schwarzburg@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stefan.schwarzburg@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi David,
> 
> 
>     On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, David Planella
>     <david.planella@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:david.planella@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>         Hi,
> 
>         During the ramp up to the announcement of Ubuntu on mobile
>         devices on
>         the 2nd of January and yesterday's announcement of the source
>         code being
>         published in 6 days, I've been thinking more about the future of
>         Qreator.
> 
>         I'd like Qreator to become the application everyone uses to
>         create codes
>         on Ubuntu -eventually to scan them, but that's a separate story.
> 
> 
>     Me too :-)
>      
> 
>         And
>         with that I mean on all devices and form factors Ubuntu will
>         soon run
>         on. I firmly believe that to achieve that goal the Ubuntu SDK is the
>         only way to go. In practical terms that is migrating to QML.
> 
> 
>     Agreed.
>      
> 
>         QML has impressed me very much. I was skeptical on what one could do
>         with a declarative language, and in my experience was: a lot. I was
>         expecting I'd have to resort to C++ at some point, which I
>         really wanted
>         to avoid (I'm done with compiling, let alone cross-compiling),
>         and I was
>         very surprised to find out how naturally small JavaScript
>         snippets fit
>         into QML where some more complex logic is needed.
> 
> 
>     I have done some work on a different app with QML, to learn more
>     about it.
>     I am impressed as well, but I still have to find good solutions for
>     a lot of problems (e.g. file I/O, dbus integration, ...) .
>     But I'm sharing your view, QML is definitely good enough and with
>     the Ubuntu toolkit, my major objection (no widgets) has gone as well.
> 
>         I also looked at PySide. Python is, and will continue to be, my
>         favourite programming language, and I had dearly wanted to keep
>         using it
>         for Qreator. However, after having been on the #pyside channel for a
>         while and having been reading the mailing list archives, I concluded
>         that the project is dead. It has not yet migrated to Qt 5 (which
>         means
>         it does not work with the Ubuntu SDK), and there is no
>         initiative for a
>         roadmap at all. The current discussions seem to be about
>         rewriting the
>         bindings generator, as it's perceived to be a major barrier for
>         getting
>         new contributors to the project.
> 
> 
>     Yes, PySide is dead, I had seen that as well. PyQt however seems
>     still alive...
>      
> 
>         All in all, with the purpose of learning about the Ubuntu SDK and
>         evaluating it for Qreator, I created a proof-of-concept version of
>         Qreator using QML and the Ubuntu SDK [1].
> 
> 
>     That looks really awesome! Great work!
>     I'm very much looking forward to continuing with that version.
>      
> 
> 
>         Once checked out, provided that the SDK is installed [2], it can
>         simply
>         be executed on an Ubuntu desktop by running: `qmlscene main.qml`
> 
>         Caveats:
>         - The app's header is a workaround until the SDK itself
>         implements it.
>           That code will be removed at some point soon.
>         - The WiFi page is just a proof-of-concept, it currently only
>         changes
>           the code according to the text, it's not a valid WiFi wireless
>         code
>         - System integration is not quite there yet, so until there are Qt
>           bindings for the main Ubuntu and GObject APIs, we'll have to think
>           about workarounds or thin wrappers to talk to those APIs.
> 
>         Thoughts?
> 
> 
>     Great work! Let's do this :-)
>     I do have a question though: have you ever looked into CoffeeScript? [1]
>     I have started to use it for my other ubuntu app and I think it
>     might be good. Feels at least a little like Python (if used in the
>     right way...)
>      
> 
>     Cheers,
>     Stefan
> 
>     [1]  http://coffeescript.org/
> 
>         Cheers,
>         David.
> 
>         [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/qreator/qreator-qml
>         [2] http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile
> 
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