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[Bert Freudenberg <bert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Claudia,

thanks for testing! It's great that it's not working for you so we have a test case ;)

To assist in debugging, could you change DBus>>logDebug: to "Transcript show: aString; cr" and send me the Transcript contents after you tried to import a costume or project? Thanks!

All: the steps to upgrade to my version under Sugar in the Terminal activity are
	cd Activities/Scratch.activity
	wget http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/scratch/ScratchXO-bf-Feb23.zip
	mv ScratchXO.image ScratchXO.image.bak
	unzip ScratchXO-bf-Feb23.zip
Then launch Scratch as usual.

- Bert -

On 24.02.2010, at 04:25, Claudia Urrea wrote:
> 
> Hi Bert,
> 
> I am very excited about the progress. I run Scratch on my XO1.0 (802)
> and this is what I found:
> - Import projects
>   I downloaded a project from the Scratch website, but I can't import
>   it using the Journal button. If I use the simple directory viewer, I see
>   a list of download entries, but none of them open, if I bring the Sugar
>   widget (by holding down shift key), I click on the file, but it doesn't
>   open. I included a couple of screet shoots.
> 
> - Import costumes
>   If I use the simple directory view, it works, but if I use the Sugar
>   widget (by holding down shift key), the images don't get imported.
>   I even tried creating a new sprite and again, if I select one of the
>   images using the simple directory view it works, but not from the
>   Sugar widget.
> 
>   I like the hidden feature, but one of the reasons I propose the
>   Sugar widget is that you can get access to the content of the USB
>   drives, without having to do to "/media/XXXX/"
> 
> - Import images for background
>   I get the same behavior.. the background images get imported if
>   I use the simple directort view, but not the Sugar widget
> 
> - I didn't test sound.
> 
> Thanks again for your work.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Claudia
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Maloney" <jmaloney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Bert Freudenberg" <bert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "linux" <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Claudia Urrea" <calla@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Sugarizing Scratch
> 
> 
>> Hi, Bert.
>> 
>> Got it installed using your pre-build image (thanks for making that!).  So far I've tested:
>> 
>>  1. download a project from the Scratch website and open it using  the Journal button. Yay! This is a biggie!
>>  2. Imported a photo from the Journal as a costume. Another biggie!
>> 
>> I haven't yet tested importing lists, backgrounds, and sounds from the Journal. I'll let you know. But these first two tests are very  promising.
>> 
>> The Sugar "object chooser" is actually what I had originally imagined  you would implement. But I much prefer the way you did it. I would be  okay with leaving it in as a hidden feature. As you say, it could be  desirable as a way to search among thousands of entries.
>> 
>> It took a while to generate thumbnails the first time I imported an image, even though there were very few images in my Journal (and only  one photo). It's great that you are caching the thumbnails file so it  is fast the next time. The Sugar object chooser might be a faster way  to import an image on a computer with lots of images in the Journal,  especially if the user has never imported an image from Scratch so  there no thumbnails file. I could imagine that thumbnail generation  might take hours if the journal were full of photos.
>> 
>> I haven't used an XO for a while. I had forgotten how slow the XO  feels when one is used to a 2 gigaherz dual core processor. :-)
>> 
>> This is looking very promising!
>> 
>> -- John
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi John, all,
>>> 
>>> I'm working on making the Sugar Journal accessible from Scratch. The plan is to do so with only minimal changes in the UI.
>>> 
>>> I have a first implementation, and would like to get feedback.  Attached is a version that can import Scratch projects, Sprite  costumes, Stage backgrounds, and Lists from the Sugar Journal.  Importing Sounds should work too but I have not tested that yet.
>>> 
>>> There is no saving / exporting / writing to the Journal yet.
>>> 
>>> The UI by default shows the Journal contents as if it was a simple directory. You just click the new Journal button and it lists all  the matching entries for the current media type.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively it can use Sugar's "object chooser". To try that, hold down Shift while clicking the Journal button (the default is  governed by useJournalUI pref). If there were thousands of entries  in the Journal this might be preferable. But I'm still undecided on  this.
>>> 
>>> To install, get a pristine ScratchSource1.4 image and file in the changesets in this order:
>>> - Compatibility
>>> - DBus
>>> - SugarScratch
>>> You MUST evaluate "DBus startUp: true" once, and after each start of  the image (if saved as a user image that happens automatically on  each start).
>>> 
>>> Obviously you need to run this under Sugar.
>>> 
>>> For convenience, here is a drop-in replacement for the image in the current Scratch activity:
>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/scratch/ScratchXO-bf-Feb23.zip
>>> 
>>> Again, feedback appreciated.
>>> 
>>> - Bert -
>>> 
>>> <SugarScratch-bf-Feb23.zip>
>> 
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