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[Amos Blanton <amos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hmm... looks like i might need to do a little more QA before releasing.
Thanks for letting us know about this!

I'd lost track of my camera for a bit, but found it and can confirm that the
camera in Scratch is not working currently. However, I'm using
scratch_1.4.0.1-0ubuntu4_i386.deb -- the latest version from our PPA and the
main Scratch download page. Did you mean to say you tested on another
earlier version and found that it worked?

As to why it is failing - I have no idea. Possibly b/c of an Ubuntu update?
I don't believe we changed anything related to the Camera plugin stuff...

No, we did not make it into 10.04 unfortunately. I thought we might scrape
by but alas. :( So we'll have to stick to recommending the PPA or the
download page.

btw2, I'm planning to spend a fair chunk of this week on AV issues (Squeak/
> Scratch/ Etoys), first on the desktop then on the XO. This includes bringing
> together any/all notes into one place. Squeak's wiki seems the most
> appropriate place so would you be willing to replace related Scratch wiki
> entries with links to the Squeak wiki? Which reminds me...
>

Sure! Just let us know what / where.


> For the XO I need to get intimate with the V4L plugin and I was wondering
> if there is any value in replacing the Camera plugin in Scratch with V4L?
> This helps a little if you are still aiming to eventually use Ian's VM.
> However, I get the impression that Scratch development might soon be focused
> on Flash so I'm wondering what the future is for the Squeak-based version
> beyond the current release?
>
>
It's true, Scratch 2.0 will likely be all Flash based. But it's also likely
to take a long time before we're ready to release - at least a year I'd
guess. So it might be helpful to use V4L (we already do as a library, right?
Or do you mean a closer connection?) I expect people will continue using the
squeak based software for some time after 2.0 is released, depending on the
success of our efforts to make an offline flash based version.

-Amos

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Derek O'Connell <doc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hi Amos, John, hope you are both well.
>
> I discovered today that the camera facility is broken in this version. For
> comparison I checked "scratch_1.4.0.1-0ubuntu4_i386.deb" in which the camera
> does work. Plugin file sizes match and the latest deb still quotes libv4l as
> a dependency so I'm left scratching my head. Can you think of any thing that
> might be peculiar to this build? No bother if not, I'll try a fresh build
> from svn later this week.
>
> btw, Amos, I was a little confused and thought your posting meant the
> Scratch deb was now in the official Ubuntu/ Debian repo's. What's the score
> on that, did it make it into 10.04? If so does that mean it will be
> automatically included in Karmic "backports" or is that only done on
> request?
>
> btw2, I'm planning to spend a fair chunk of this week on AV issues (Squeak/
> Scratch/ Etoys), first on the desktop then on the XO. This includes bringing
> together any/all notes into one place. Squeak's wiki seems the most
> appropriate place so would you be willing to replace related Scratch wiki
> entries with links to the Squeak wiki? Which reminds me...
>
> For the XO I need to get intimate with the V4L plugin and I was wondering
> if there is any value in replacing the Camera plugin in Scratch with V4L?
> This helps a little if you are still aiming to eventually use Ian's VM.
> However, I get the impression that Scratch development might soon be focused
> on Flash so I'm wondering what the future is for the Squeak-based version
> beyond the current release?
>
> -D
>
>
>
> On 17/04/10 00:34, Amos Blanton wrote:
>
>> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Scratch_1.4_Download
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who contributed their time and energy to help make this
>> package possible!
>>
>> -Amos
>>
>>
>
>


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Amos