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[Adam Hill <sidepipeuk@xxxxxxxxx>]

> I actually have to agree to Norbert.

	Hmm, I agree with Norbert but I don't agree with the tone. If people are 
going to get annoyed everytime someone else does something which they don't 
approve of then maybe they need to go off and form their own society, because 
it will always happen :(.

	In defence of Denys, he probably just assumed that it was an issue with 
my particular kernel, which IS sony z series related and information about it 
can only be found here. That is obviously an incorrect assumption but for 
someone who is trying to get Linux running who does not understand the 
technical stuff ( which is the sort of person that Linux needs to appeal to if 
it has any hope of mass adoption ) would not necessarily understand that or 
know where to find the answers. Any mailing list that you care to set up which 
doesn't have some sort of an examination as a membership qualification will 
fall foul of the same thing eventually. If people would just play nicely then 
the world would be a better place... ( Adam gets off his soap box now. )

	Let me make it clear though that my kernel is based on a pre-release, and 
the Intel fixes are also new. This list isn't the place to get support on 
either, unless you are asking about specific Z series components which do not 
work AND you have looked on your favourite search engine for the answers 
first! Then the thread would be about how to get the component working, which 
is sort of the point of this list :).

	Denys - VirtualBox DOES work on my kernel because I use it - I thought 
that the latest VirtualBox had all of the necessary patches included, but 
search google for "VirtualBox 2.6.36" and you should find the answers.

Adam.

 
> And I can add from my perspective:
> That it would be nice to not have everybody that tries to install an
> UBUNTU system gets full user-support via this mailing list (I am talking
> about the cases that took in 10-15 back and forth mails and did not
> reveal any /new/ or /updated/ information - except for the newbie trying
> to use Ubuntu without reading one of the howtos out there already for
> this).
> 
> Norbert:
> Maybe the solution is to split off into our own mailing-list?
> I could try to organize this.
> 
> Adam: Would you join us?
> 
> Anyway we were all young once... but a bit more rtfm would be nice :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Knuth
> 
> ---
> 
> On 10/28/2010 12:05 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > On Do, 28 Okt 2010, Denys Pasishnyi wrote:
> >> Excuse me! In first email I don't explain good my question.
> > 
> > And even in the second it has nothing to do genuinely with SOny laptops?
> > It is just that you don't know how to manage a linux system..
> > 
> >> Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 2.6.36-0-vaioz cannot be found at
> >> /lib/modules/2.6.36-0-vaioz/build or /lib/modules/2.6.36-0-vaioz/source.
> > 
> > Then you have to compile your own kernel with the patches necessary,
> > otherwise you will not get virtualbox nor vmware to run, that is life.
> > 
> > Norbert
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> > Norbert Preining            preining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org}
> > JAIST, Japan                                 TeX Live & Debian Developer
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