sony-vaio-z-series team mailing list archive

[Jan Groth <asiandub@xxxxxx>]

All,

as a reader (not a writer) of this mailinglist, I strongly discourage the
idea to split up into two separate lists. I like to follow (and benefit
from) the information the way it is.

I fully support Adam's point: This is not a general Linux forum, BUT if
unrelated questions do pop up, there's certainly a way to say this is a
polite and friendly way. Because at the end of the day we (Linux users) are
shooting in our own feet if we don't support each other.

cheers,
Jan


On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Adam Hill <sidepipeuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> > I actually have to agree to Norbert.
>
>         Hmm, I agree with Norbert but I don't agree with the tone. If
> people are
> going to get annoyed everytime someone else does something which they don't
> approve of then maybe they need to go off and form their own society,
> because
> it will always happen :(.
>
>        In defence of Denys, he probably just assumed that it was an issue
> with
> my particular kernel, which IS sony z series related and information about
> it
> can only be found here. That is obviously an incorrect assumption but for
> someone who is trying to get Linux running who does not understand the
> technical stuff ( which is the sort of person that Linux needs to appeal to
> if
> it has any hope of mass adoption ) would not necessarily understand that or
> know where to find the answers. Any mailing list that you care to set up
> which
> doesn't have some sort of an examination as a membership qualification will
> fall foul of the same thing eventually. If people would just play nicely
> then
> the world would be a better place... ( Adam gets off his soap box now. )
>
>        Let me make it clear though that my kernel is based on a
> pre-release, and
> the Intel fixes are also new. This list isn't the place to get support on
> either, unless you are asking about specific Z series components which do
> not
> work AND you have looked on your favourite search engine for the answers
> first! Then the thread would be about how to get the component working,
> which
> is sort of the point of this list :).
>
>        Denys - VirtualBox DOES work on my kernel because I use it - I
> thought
> that the latest VirtualBox had all of the necessary patches included, but
> search google for "VirtualBox 2.6.36" and you should find the answers.
>
> Adam.
>
>
> > And I can add from my perspective:
> > That it would be nice to not have everybody that tries to install an
> > UBUNTU system gets full user-support via this mailing list (I am talking
> > about the cases that took in 10-15 back and forth mails and did not
> > reveal any /new/ or /updated/ information - except for the newbie trying
> > to use Ubuntu without reading one of the howtos out there already for
> > this).
> >
> > Norbert:
> > Maybe the solution is to split off into our own mailing-list?
> > I could try to organize this.
> >
> > Adam: Would you join us?
> >
> > Anyway we were all young once... but a bit more rtfm would be nice :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Knuth
> >
> > ---
> >
> > On 10/28/2010 12:05 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > > On Do, 28 Okt 2010, Denys Pasishnyi wrote:
> > >> Excuse me! In first email I don't explain good my question.
> > >
> > > And even in the second it has nothing to do genuinely with SOny
> laptops?
> > > It is just that you don't know how to manage a linux system..
> > >
> > >> Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 2.6.36-0-vaioz cannot be found
> at
> > >> /lib/modules/2.6.36-0-vaioz/build or
> /lib/modules/2.6.36-0-vaioz/source.
> > >
> > > Then you have to compile your own kernel with the patches necessary,
> > > otherwise you will not get virtualbox nor vmware to run, that is life.
> > >
> > > Norbert
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Norbert Preining            preining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at,
> debian.org}
> > > JAIST, Japan                                 TeX Live & Debian
> Developer
> > > DSA: 0x09C5B094   fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76  A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5
> B094
> > >
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