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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi again Israel,
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Best regards
Nio

Den 2016-01-24 kl. 02:32, skrev Israel:
> Hi Nio
> (inlines)
> On 01/23/2016 02:37 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> Den 2016-01-22 kl. 01:59, skrev Israel:
>>> ...
>> Hi Israel and the other developers :-)
>>
>> I have some time now for testing, first in my Toshiba with an Intel i5
>> processor and 4 GB RAM.
>>
>> Live:
>>
>> 1. You forgot to treat the iso file with isohybrid, so I had to do that
>> in order to make it work when flashed with mkusb into a pendrive.

Please start to treat the ISO file with isohybrid again!

You forgot it with the latest Ubuntu based daily ISO and you forgot it
with this Debian ISO.

Extra comment:

Otherwise mkusb won't create working live-only pendrives.

@Ali, see this point:

If you will decide to base the released version of ToriOS on Debian, I
will modify mkusb in order to make persistent live drives. Persistence
works for Debian in a different way from Ubuntu and Ubuntu based
distros, and ToriOS is identified as based on Ubuntu (in mkusb).

>> 2. The information about the version according to
>>
>> uname -a
>>
>> is a little confusing (i586 or i686?). It does not handle more than 2 GB
>> RAM well, which indicates a non-pae kernel. I will check it in my IBM
>> Thinkpad with an Intel Pentium M later.
> i586 is non PAE i686 is PAE

Yes but uname -a tells me both (on the same line). It is i586, confirmed
by running with the Pentium M processor.

>> Installing:
>>
>> 1. At the basic OBI level: The window 'Select device - and continue' is
>> too small (should be wider to accomodate all the text)
> I e-mailed you about this already, but here is the general info:
> 
> I am working to dynamically calculate the size of text and size the
> window accordingly.
> I have tested this and after a few edits I now have a working version
> (at least on my VM)

:-)

>> 2. For some reason the SSD drive connected via eSATA is shown twice in
>> this menu (minor bug but confusing).
> not sure where to look for this.... that is definitely part of your
> original OBI code somewhere... I might be able to track it down....
>> 3. There is no box to check in the 'Final warning' window. But you can
>> click on the text 'Check this box ...' - maybe it should be changed to
>> 'Click on this line to get it checked, if you are ready to go'. I think
>> this is a zenity bug (or bad cooperation between zenity and jwm).
> I think this is either a Zenity bug OR a bug in the Numix gtk theme, OR
> it is another 'feature' Gnome has built into GTK :P

I do not expect that we will get this bug fixed. So I recommend that you
change the text to

'Click on this line to get it checked, if you are ready to go'

There is probably a *similar issue with zmktbl*, that can be solved in a
similar way. I have not tested it, but I remember that there is a zenity
window with a checkbox there too.

>> Installed system:
>>
>> 1. Apparmor init failed for me too.
> It fails at first, but then gets things right.  I think apparmor is an
> upstart based thing... not sure what it is for but it is in the standard
> Ubuntu minimal or standard packages.

Apparmor is for security. See

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor

>> 2. A start job is running ... (waiting for 90 s: systemd problem?)
> This is a systemd issue.  Basically the /etc/fstab had the cdrom (sr0)
> in it from the Debian Installer.  Then, when OBI recreates the fstab we
> get a funky thing where the installed OS is looking for a non-existent
> device for like 90 seconds.

I hope you will fix this issue, because it will annoy end users. But I
know almost nothing about systemd, so I can't help much.

>> 3. The tick boxes in ztweaks is missing, you have to click on the white
>> space where it is supposed to be in order to activate it. The same
>> zenity bug as before. In this case it does not work to click on the
>> text, so it is really confusing.
> I did change some of the text in other dialogs... but I am not sure with
> this.  We will have to test multiple themes to check this out.  Maybe
> file a bug with zenity/gtk/numix or whatever is causing the problem.

Maybe we simply skip ztweaks (because I don't think we will get this bug
fixed. I have not enough time for it).

>> 4. The colours of the prompt in the terminal window are not green and red.
> :(
> I am not sure if I create the bashrc correctly in Debian, or possibly it
> doesn't get fully copied?  Not sure about that one.

This is a minor issue :-)

>> 5. The panel icon for audio is bad, or should I say, the app behind it
>> does not work correctly. I cannot open the mixer. I have to select
>> preferences and show slider, otherwise it is mute. 'Open mixer' just
>> flashes by - does not leave anything open.
> as I told Jack, alsa-utils was not installed... but will be in the new
> ISO which will be ready when OBI is ready.

:-)

>> 6. The wired network works. I can use ssh. But I have to 'sudo ping'
>> (maybe this is a feature of debian, different from ubuntu).
> hmm... not sure if that is a feature or a bug.  They are very similar
> and VERY different.  But I like this ToriOS version it is the best of
> both worlds, IMO
>> Installing:
>>
>> 1. At the advanced OBI level: The checkbox is missing (the same zenity
>> bug as before).
>> 
>> 2. I tried to install the PAE kernel this time. But
>> uname -a
>> and
>> free -m
>> seem to display the same as before. Are you sure that there is a
>> difference - that different kernels are installed?
> This IS a bug.  Thank you.  I think this will be fixed in the next version.
> The PAE kernel installer should also leave a log file in
> ~/pae-kernel-install.log
> For us to check more.

:-)

>> 3. I tried again and installed a third time, (to a third ext4
>> partition), making sure I installed the 'PAE kernel'. This time the
>> installed systems grub did not display the previous versions as lines in
>> the grub menu. But it worked to run
> I think this is a problem with the bug.

It is strange that it appeared the third time but not the second time.
We can say that it is has low priority compared to other bugs,
particularly if other people won't complain about it.

>> sudo update-grub
>>
>> to get them.
>>
>> Still the same result from uname -a and free -m, so I think it is the
>> same kernel all the time.
>>
>> Pentium M:
>>
>> *. The live system and the installed system work in the IBM Thinkpad
>> with an Intel Pentium M, and the the kernel is a non-pae kernel.
>>
>> It seems that we get a non-pae kernel also when we select to install a
>> PAE kernel (in computers allowing it). So [I am almost 100% sure] this
>> is a bug.
>>
>> -o-
>>
>> There are some bugs, but considering the short time you have been
>> converting ToriOS to debian, I think you have done a very good job. Most
>> things work :-)
> Thanks Nio.
>> Best regards
>> Nio
> 
>