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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Israel, Jack and Ali,
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Best regards
Nio

Den 2016-02-06 kl. 21:39, skrev Israel:
> Hi Nio
> (inlines)
> On 02/06/2016 11:19 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> ...
>> Until you get a faster computer, you can plan for overnight tasks :-)
> Actually, I do it while I am doing other real life stuff at home.
> I just boot the live OS in VirtualBox, use the oh so convenient zmktbl
> (with an edit to use the super duper compression) and let it compress it
> to another virtual drive
> 
> Once it is done, I boot up an exiting virtual ToriOS with openssh-server
> installed
> I use Filezilla to access it, and download the tarball to the ISOmaker dir.
> 
> Then I cdISOmaker (an alias to get me to the right directory)
> and
> ./ISOmaker
> 
> then I interact a few times (no don't install GRUB to my real MBR, yes I
> want English keyboard, enter my password)
> 
> And then I test it.
> 
> If everything goes well, I upload to phillw's server overnight (when no
> one needs internet) and make my computer suspend when it is finished.
> 
> It is long but this process is MUCH easier than the initial WillNio9w
> copy paste days :)
> And it is much easier to do things in the VM than to have a physical
> computer I have to boot.

This sounds like you have a good working method :-)

>>> ...
>>> Is this within the same session?  Or are you rebooting and trying again?
>>> Not sure why this could happen.
>> I'm rebooting and testing (in the same computer) between each attempt. I
>> have tried cold boot too.
> Odd... I wonder if this is an issue with the grub config file, or if
> there is something going on with the MBR?
> I have noticed that /mnt is still mounted after the install, so there
> must be something that is not getting finished fully (hence the odd
> randomness)
> I have looked into it, but it is not a *major* show stopper so it is one
> of those things I mess with when I have time.
>>>> ...
>>> At least you can boot
>> Yes.
> This is actually really good, it means we are still getting grub
> installed correctly.
> just updating grub doesn't exactly work always.

I agree, it is not a show stopper.

>>>> *2. And I know of a bug in mkusb*
>> I have been thinking about it, and given some time it should not be too
>> hard to do the programming. I hope to do it within a few days - faster,
>> if it is as easy as I think now.
> I do hope it is easy to fix.  Those are the best bugs.  It is something
> like this SSD via USB or GRUB not always working bugs that are
> unpleasant to fix, because they are hard to reproduce sometimes, and
> have no clear reason they do not work.

I made a quick fix last night and uploaded it to the unstable ppa and to
Phill's server, mkusb 10.5.1. I have done some testing, and it seems to
be able to create persistent live drives with Ubuntu (flavours), Debian,
Torios-Precise and ToriOS-Debian. It is not tested by anyone else, and
needs testing to be sure that it works, before we can move it to the
stable 'ppa:mkusb/ppa'.

@ Israel, Jack and Ali,

Please test making a persistent live drive with mkusb 10.5.1 running in
ToriOS live and ToriOS installed :-)

You get it via

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mkusb/unstable
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install mkusb

# if you want mkusb-nox
sudo apt-get install mkusb-nox

# or if you want both mkusb and mkusb-nox
sudo apt-get install mkusb mkusb-nox

or via

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/gui#from_phillw.net

>> -o-
>>
>> *Finally a question about multimedia support*
>>
>> Have you tested how well ToriOS-Debian performs various multimedia tasks
>> compared to ToriOS-Precise? What about the meta-package
>>
>> 'restricted Extras' in firstrun? Is it similar to
> Actually this was the bug I spoke about the other day.
> I tried the existing firstrun, and noticed the issue.
> now that this is fixed, it should potentially be easier than Ubuntu
> (since it is presented in a dialog from the get-go)
> I just looked at the package contents for the ubuntu-restricted-extras
> and found all the Debian equivalents, and even go to the trouble of
> informing the user of the issues surrounding it, and even
> download/install the libdvdcss package if the user accepts it.
> Assuming it works in the newest version of firstrun... which I will test
> in a little while.

Great progress :-)

Multimedia performance is something that really needs testing (in
ToriOS-Debian).

>> lubuntu-restricted-extras
>>
>> This is something that I have not spent time testing, but I think many
>> end users want it to work well. (At least some years ago, Ubuntu based
>> systems were easier than the other linux distros with non-free software.)
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
> I recently rebuilt the newest version of JWM, as it has a minor, but
> nice feature (there are lots of fixes since my last general JWM update).
> But now Windows can have the title centered
> 
> This is opposed to it always being on the left, it is minor but nice
> visually.  I think most DE do this, right?

Yes.

> -- 
> Regards
> 
>