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Re: ToriOS Default Apps

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Hi,

On 08/11/2014 08:57 PM, Paul Sutton wrote:
Perhaps during the testing phase, we could include programs like lshw (list hardware) and inxi to aid diagnostics or generally to aid diagnostics, we could then ask people before asking questions to look up how info on their system. 

just a thought
Such applications/programs/tools like: lshw which only require "CLI" is definitely fine to add without the need to ask whether to add or not :)
But what I was trying to explain on my previous email is we should avoid adding too much GUI applications. Why? because the idea of ToriOS is to give the user 100% freedom to build his/her system the way he/she wants. 

We offer the basic. They build the rest. This is ToriOS philosophy :)




Paul



Thanks for your thought :)




On 11/08/14 13:48, Ali Linx wrote:


On 08/11/2014 04:11 PM, Israel wrote:

Hi Ali and everyone,

Hi,
I guess the web browser will be the thing to handle all of those file types. 
So, Ali what web browser are we using?
Since the very first days of ToriOS Project, I have shared my vision regarding the default applications. ToriOS should have only: 

Core System+Packages
Terminal
Browser
Synaptic
File Manager
and very very few necessary applications
However, after I replied the email (I was half asleep when I did and from my cell), I had an idea and I'd like to share it:
Definitely, having very few applications by default might keep some users away from our system. There is something you need to understand that some very well-known Linux Distributions out there have NO desktop-package and if they do want to release an update, users have to download the whole thing (ISO) and even though, these distros are well-known and wildly used. ToriOS will be something much better hopefully. 

That said, I'm thinking to have two versions:
32-bit for the old machines which is this project is all about.
64-bit the very same 32-bit version BUT with more apps so those with newer machines can use ToriOS specially if they are new to GNU/Linux.
The browser on the 32-bit can be something very simple and less powerful than Firefox. 

Firefox will be the default for 64-bit.

So, the Q is:

Are we okay with this?

If yes, will that add more burden on our shoulders?

We need to study our options and then decide ...
I must say that I have never thought ToriOS 1.0 will be developed this great way and this is what is motivating me and encouraging me to give more to our users :) 

Thanks!



On 08/11/2014 02:12 AM, Ali/amjjawad wrote:

Hi,
Before you waste your time, everyone .. Please do understand that I have mentioned many times that ToriOS will NOT be shipped with default applications except the very needed ones. That said, there will be nothing as email program nor video player, etc. 

I shall send the list of what to be included and NO poll is required.

Hope you see my point :)

Thank you!
Sent from my smartphone.

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  ToriOS Default Apps

* Required

    Default PDF program *
    if there is a terminal program for this, we could test it out :)
      * evince
      * qpdfview
      * Firefox (if default browser)
      * Other:
    Default Web Browser *
      * Qupzilla
      * Firefox
      * Chromium
      * Other:
    Games *
if you have a suggestion for one, post it to G+ or the mailing list 
      * yes
      * no
    Office Programs *
      * Abiword/Gnumeric
      * no
      * Other:
    CD burner application *
      * xfburn
      * bash script
      * brasero
      * NO
      * Other:
    E-Mail *
      * Web browser
      * Sylpheed
      * Geary
      * Other:
    Text Editor *
      * xedit
      * mousepad
      * leafpad
      * pico
      * geany
      * Other:
    Package Manager *
    we can't use apt-get though it is BY FAR the lightest and
    fastest... unless someone wants to make a nice zenity dialog
    software center :)
      * Synaptic / gdebi
      * Lubuntu Software Center
      * Muon
      * aptitude
      * Other:
    Audio Player *
    these are just a few choices.... if you have a better one, please
    add it there are sooooooooooo many for GNU/Linux
      * Audacious
      * GmusicBrowser
      * Guayadeque
      * the default Video player
      * the web browser
      * Other:
    Default Video Player *
    we can't include VLC by default... sorry
      * Parole
      * xine
      * mplayer
      * web browser
      * Other:
    Any suggestions for other apps we should include?
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