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Message #02083
Re: [Torios-dev] JWM
On 09/09/2015 07:07 AM, Israel wrote:
Hi everyone,
Hi Israel and everyone else,
I've been away from my laptop for 4 days and 19 hours :)
You can test the newest version out...
Thanks, I did test it. I am so sleepy at the moment so can't send my
report .. I have many things to report/discuss. I am replying just to
confirm that I did test and the report will be sent later, hopefully.
I haven't fully tested things with it, so please do let me know of any
issues.
Tested but will send the report later.
I have made some changes lately to the menus and a few other things.
Let me know what you think!
Will do :)
zsync http://phillw.net/isos/torios/ToriOS-daily.iso.zsync
As for your original email, Israel, here is a quick note:
If we're going to 'wait' for each and every 'updated' or 'newer' version
of JWM, then ToriOS 1.0 will never ever be released.
I am sorry if this will sound rude, harsh, etc but in the FOSS world,
developers and projects can 'not' wait for updated versions and hold
thing while waiting. Allow me to give you an example.
Ubuntu GNOME [1] can NOT ship the latest GNOME by default because GNOME
release new versions one month before Ubuntu Team release a new version.
For example, Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 will be shipped with GNOME 3.16 and NOT
the latest GNOME.
That's why, there is PPA and that is why, there is version 1.1, 1.2, etc.
I am 100% sure everyone here knows that. I am not stating the obvious
here, I am just saying and reminding everyone of this simple fact.
*I see 'no' reason why we should wait for 'newer' version 'everytime'. I
am really tired of waiting* :(
I refused to set a release schedule for ToriOS. I wanted to give 100%
freedom to everyone here. But now, I understand why Ubuntu has a release
schedule [2]. We can definitely avoid that with the next release but for
now, I agree that waiting is getting out of control/hands here. We have
waited for so long already.
Back to the latest build: I see minor bugs and lack of basic/some features.
I need to sleep so that I can send my report. It's 11:30pm here :(
Israel, please do NOT get me wrong. I am NOT blaming you at all. You're
the heart and soul of this project and no one can deny that. I was just
thinking loudly and honestly, that's all. You're doing a remarkable job!
And, we should also look at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze
and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze
Thank you!
[1] - http://ubuntugnome.org/gnome-3-12/
[2] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
On 09/07/2015 06:51 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
Den 2015-09-06 kl. 20:55, skrev Israel:
Hi everyone,
I am thinking I might just use the git version of JWM by default.
Joe is building JWM very regularly, so I think I will use a testing PPA,
and then when I find that things do not break I will push an update.
Joe also keeps a xslt program to convert older style jwmrc files to
newer styles. I figure we can trigger this when it is updated
automatically and run it on the user's jwmrc file. We can also run it
on any of their personally made theme files in jwm-settings-manager.
Basically I am getting tired of waiting on the next stable release and
think this is probably as good a method as any. We can update the git
version until the snapshot we want (or manually update it with a
specific package).
maybe use versioning like
(git version)
jwm-2.3.0+git-1260-0~49~ubuntu12.04.5
(stable)
jwm-2.3.2+0~11~ubuntu12.04.5
That way when we reach stable I can update the ToriOS PPA with the
correct JWM version and it will override the current git version
(2.3.2 is larger than 2.3.0)
thoughts?
Hi Israel,
I understand that there are important improvements in the new version,
so that you don't want to use the current stable version of JWM.
You are the [only] one in our ToriOS developer's group, who know how
these things work. If you think it is OK, I think it is OK too.
Best regards
Nio
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Ali/amjjawad
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
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