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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Den 2015-10-10 kl. 18:02, skrev Nio Wiklund:
> Den 2015-10-08 kl. 14:59, skrev Israel:
>> Hey everyone,
>> please test the new ISO, and zsync to get it!
>>
> 
> Hi Israel,
> 
> I'm testing the current ToriOS daily ISO.
> 
> *Live*
> 
> 1. ToriOS manual desktop icon:
> 
> 'Incompatible Add-ons'
> 
> GNOMErunnier/GTK Revived (Freedesktop) 0.3.4 (is not compatible)
> 
> Seamonkey finds/wants 0.3.6
> 
> 2. OBI with zenity
> 
> You have spent a lot of time to convert the dialog menus to zenity menus :-)
> 
> Of course it is an improvement, but there are a few items to discuss,
> some of them very important.
> 
> a. I think it is not really worthwhile to keep the second desktop icon
> and the option 'Install to disk FULL...'.
> 
> b. Some menus that are made for fixed line breaks are too narrow, so
> they look ugly, and some menus need monospace font (like courier or
> ubuntu mono) to look good.
> 
> - the 'Tips' menu should be wider (use --width= or remove the fixed line
> breaks)
> 
> - the 'Help to partition' screen (use --width= or remove the fixed line
> breaks)
> 
> - the 'Help to select device' menu should use monospace font, which
> works in --text-info windows if you add the --html option and some html
> or pango markup for that purpose. (You can see how I did it in the
> corresponding menu in mkusb.)
> 
> - I think the work flow is inconvenient via 'Partition drives and
> install alongside current OS': You force people to use gparted. What if
> they want to reuse partitions like I often do? You should allow them to
> select partitions manually (like what it used to be in the dialog version).
> 
> - Furthermore, there I see no feedback, that the correct partitions are
> actually selected for the root partition and swap partition.
> 
> At what I think is the final warning, there is no information about the
> target directories, only 'Are you sure you want to proceed?'. And it is
> too narrow (the whole header is not shown). Use --width=
> 
> - The menu 'Select partition using this key: root' is too narrow (hides
> the important column MOUNTPOINT). Use --width=
> 
> *Installing*
> 
> - Furthermore, it seems not working (at least there is only feedback
> during a few seconds about the target partitions). This cannot be
> released. I think the dialog menu is much safer to use.
> 
> - The 'Overview' window is too narrow and is almost impossible to read.
> 
> - Finally I tried with a target pendrive, that could be damaged. It did
> not work at the advanced OBI level to install into partitions made and
> marked with gparted. The computer boots into the previous system.
> 
> The target drive has a GPT, and I have installed ToriOS at the advanced
> OBI level to a drive with GPT before, but it does not work now. The
> system seems installed into the correct target partition, and the swap
> partition seems correct, but the bootloader was not installed correctly
> (probably not at all), the old bootloader survived.
> 
> - I also tried to install at the basic OBI level (and overwrite the
> target drive). In this case an appropriate final warning was displayed.
> There is no progress indication, only the pulsating display while the
> tarball is extracted. There is a complaint during a few seconds (no
> chance to write it down). Anyway, this works :-) After reboot there is
> an installed ToriOS system.
> 
> *Final words*
> 
> Sorry that I am so negative, but I think we should release ToriOS with
> the dialog menus for the OBI. After the release we have time to tweak
> these new zenity menus until they feel safe and look good and can
> install a dual boot or multi boot system. I cannot do it in a short
> time, and we need several people testing it to detect bugs.
> 
> There is a lot of work (programming and testing) until I would feel
> ready to release an official version with zenity menus for the
> OBI-installer in ToriOS.
> 
> Best regards
> Nio
> 

Hi again Israel,

I tried again, this time installing a second system into what I
installed earlier today, ToriOS into the whole disk. So I used
'Partition drives and install alongside current OS' again, this time
into an MSDOS partition table (earlier created by ToriOS), that I edited
with gparted. But it failed too.

The tarball was installed into partition #3, but the bootloader failed
to be installed. Only the previous system was available to boot (and no
entry to any system in partition #3).

So I repeat:

Sorry that I am so negative, but I think we should release ToriOS with
the dialog menus for the OBI.

Best regards
Nio

Best regards
Nio